My only comment in this regard is to point out that plastic surgeons around the world are busily trying to drum up business by convincing young women that visible labia MINORA are unsightly or unwomanly and how they ought to get labiaplasty so that their nether bits would look more like you describe your own. They often suggest that men PREFER women this way or are turned off by visible minora.

I have seen some men post their preference for visible minora with an intention to chime in as opposed to this brand new means for profit oriented business to try and make women feel their bodies insufficient. That is- pointing out that many men find the visible variation preferrable.

So this is a sword that cuts both ways.


Myself- when I love a woman, no matter how her body is shaped or formed, she becomes my definition of exciting and attractive.

I must concur. Nice summation

I too want to express to the contrary of tj, that my understanding is that pop culture prefers symmetrical, heavily groomed vaginas with no visible labia minora

Phil’s counter point that expressing preference at all can be counter productive despite the best intentions is even more on point, much the way people go on about “real women having curves.” I get that we want to support heavier, less popular body types in the face of the ubiquitous 5’10” 100lb advert model, but it’s hypocritical

We just have to be careful not to hurt

And we also have to be strong we hurt happens
 
I’m amazed that any sane guy would insult a woman over the look of her labia. That’s incredibly douche-y. I don’t think I’ve seen one (in person or in porn) that I find distasteful or ugly. I don’t know about a lot of other guys but, The female form is huge turn on for me.

Huge, stretchy, tight, small, I don’t care.
I love it.
 
Similar to what @Fade said

for the most part I think I've come across the "roast beef curtains" comments as the negative statements about women's genitalia

You know I just don’t understand why some guys don’t find that hot. I guess I’m just different.
 
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Very few have commented on mine. My bestie pointed out that my mons and majora jiggle when I walk. Dudes either say nothing, or describe her as adorable, cute, juicy, fat, and sweet. She's all I ever had in that department, and I love her, no matter what.
 
I’m amazed that any sane guy would insult a woman over the look of her labia. That’s incredibly douche-y. I don’t think I’ve seen one (in person or in porn) that I find distasteful or ugly. I don’t know about a lot of other guys but, The female form is huge turn on for me.

Huge, stretchy, tight, small, I don’t care.
I love it.

Same here. I cannot for the life of me understand why some others have to put people down for any little thing or any little difference. Personal hygeine aside, there are no factors which 'condemn' a body part in my book.
 
Since sex is controlled by women, most men are so damn grateful and euphoric when it happens that incidentals such as her genital aesthetics are an afterthought: "Whew-hoo, look at me! Who's the man??!!" Take those same men away from the passion of the moment and put them in front of their PCs and behold what lies in secret recesses of their minds.

An entire porn industry wouldn't exist if it weren't for the male of our specie sexually wired to want and desire to view a wide variety of the female form. We men can compartmentalize a gazillion boobs, bushes, clits and labias with the power of a Cray computer. Lash a man to a polygraph and ask them if they have female genital preferences. Watch the amplitude of those needles if he says no.
 
Since sex is controlled by women, most men are so damn grateful and euphoric when it happens that incidentals such as her genital aesthetics are an afterthought: "Whew-hoo, look at me! Who's the man??!!" Take those same men away from the passion of the moment and put them in front of their PCs and behold what lies in secret recesses of their minds.

An entire porn industry wouldn't exist if it weren't for the male of our specie sexually wired to want and desire to view a wide variety of the female form. We men can compartmentalize a gazillion boobs, bushes, clits and labias with the power of a Cray computer. Lash a man to a polygraph and ask them if they have female genital preferences. Watch the amplitude of those needles if he says no.

Not all men.

If that were the case I would never have started this thread.

Just sayin.
 
Since sex is controlled by women, most men are so damn grateful and euphoric when it happens that incidentals such as her genital aesthetics are an afterthought: "Whew-hoo, look at me! Who's the man??!!" Take those same men away from the passion of the moment and put them in front of their PCs and behold what lies in secret recesses of their minds.

An entire porn industry wouldn't exist if it weren't for the male of our specie sexually wired to want and desire to view a wide variety of the female form. We men can compartmentalize a gazillion boobs, bushes, clits and labias with the power of a Cray computer. Lash a man to a polygraph and ask them if they have female genital preferences. Watch the amplitude of those needles if he says no.
Not all men.

If that were the case I would never have started this thread.

Just sayin.
Absolutely not all men. Personally I have dated men who were completely critical of women’s bodies - would not sleep with someone they considered less than an 8 (oh, lucky me :mad: - fortunately I’ve fallen way down the scale!) and were quite open about the favour they were bestowing on someone at the lower end of their target group.

I have been judged by my abs, ass, breasts, and even the lack of concave beauty of my armpits.

In addition, there are men who use sex to control women. Not common maybe, but it happens. Mismatched couples - lower libido males, high libido women. “Maybe if I’m good enough, he’ll fuck me tonight...”

Sex is not always controlled by women. Some men can just be weird about it.
 
Absolutely not all men. Personally I have dated men who were completely critical of women’s bodies - would not sleep with someone they considered less than an 8 (oh, lucky me :mad: - fortunately I’ve fallen way down the scale!) and were quite open about the favour they were bestowing on someone at the lower end of their target group.

I have been judged by my abs, ass, breasts, and even the lack of concave beauty of my armpits.

In addition, there are men who use sex to control women. Not common maybe, but it happens. Mismatched couples - lower libido males, high libido women. “Maybe if I’m good enough, he’ll fuck me tonight...”

Sex is not always controlled by women. Some men can just be weird about it.

My wife is entering menopause.. I’m in 6th gear and she’s in 1st libidio-wise. We still have sex once a week maybe. I am the one to initiate usually, and some times she’s like “nah. Not tonight” which is ok. I can only hope once it’s over she’ll catch up to me.

And I LOVE her labia, btw.
 
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I am not here to agree with anyone, but LaFemme has voiced a point that most women have experienced. My SO has told me similar. I will say this though, there are nuts everywhere both sexes, just different behaviors and they are to be avoided. I think our filters in this regard gets better with age. Mine did. Now this whole labia thing I have been reading here. As a man I have never even given that a thought. So I don't fully understand where this pervasive thought comes from with some here. I am not into body shame, critique, whatever you call it. That's a very demeaning personal behavior. I either find someone attractive clothes on or I don't. The rest of this business, which I don't care to even respond to doesn't enter the equation at all. Waaaay to much thought would interfere in the sexuality.

Open the Cabernet and pour, please!