This topic has been discussed before, but I think it's time to bring it up again... GENERALLY SPEAKING (so for the exceptions, don't hate me), women are the worst judges of "size"--whether the object is a penis, or a piece of lumber--possible. This is my theory. If a man is hung (let's say "hung" meaning 7" or longer), then women will grossly exaggerate his size. "I hooked up with Bobby the other night and he's HUGE...like 10 inches!" In this scenario Bobby is likely an inch or so longer than anything she's seen in the past, but since she is not familiar with larger organs, she is very impressed by the, in actuality, modest difference. However, if a man is "small" (let's say anything less than 5") then women grossly underestimate his size. "Oh my God, my ex-boyfriend was tiny...like 4" tiny!" In this scenario, it is likely that Bobby was not "tiny," but more than likely on the small end of average. The evidence I use to support my theory is personal. I'm a legitimate 8.5" long, with a more modest girth of 5.5" (still thicker than average, but not as extreme as my length). But to the group of girls I know, I'm 10" long. I have never told any of them the details of my length, but this is the rumor that was spread after I hooked-up with one of them. By the way, this same girl believes that Ron Jeremy is 12". For the record, he's ~9.5"...closer to what she says I am. Apparently she determined Ron's size by comparing his penis from pornos to her ever-seered image of my penis in her memory. Of course, Ron is indeed an inch or so longer than me, so my friend, confident that I was 10", naturally accessed Ron's size. One final thought... Women, like men, brag about penis size. With men, they brag about their OWN penis. With women, they brag about their PARTNER's penis. Just as men have a motivation to exaggerate size, so do women. Thanks for your patience and please excuse my rant. I just have to bring this up ever once in awhile because penis-size exaggeration ultimately hurts all legitimately hung guys. Every jackass who is alleged to have an 8" penis, and doesn't, puts pressure on me to up my size to account for the artificial inflation...and I'm tired of it.
SL55///AMG: Very well said... Up here everyone seems to be 9"... yet no one other than myself is willing to prove it.
I was going to say this. I showed a girl my pic, the one in the Penis Parade called Left Hand. She then said I must be 13" I told her I wasn't even in double figures and was barely 8". She said her bf was 7" and I was nowhere near that. I kept trying to tell her my size and she wouldn't have it, she thought I was calling her a liar and insulting her intelligence. The thickness probably skews guesses but I dont think most girls can judge size.
I hope I don't get ripped as sexist, but spatial relationships is actually an ability that is more predominant in men. It's not just judging cocks. It comes into play when you tell the wife that the couch won't fit against that wall and she makes you move it anyway, just to be sure. Between an innate inability to accurately judge linear distances, poor measuring techniques and exagerations by guys, there is no doubt that women struggle to get an accurate read on cock size.
In other words, it's fair to say that all estimates (not just on penis size but on other anatomical features) will be more platykurtic than reality.
Okay, I'll actually agree with you guys for the most part, but not for the same reasons. First- I think most PEOPLE are lousy at estimating cock size for various reasons. I think women are worse as a whole at judging distances and sizes because we traditionally haven't held jobs that required these things to be done. In the rare cases of women carpenters and such, I am sure they would be quite good at it. Same with driving- most women don't have jobs that require a tremendous amount of driving, but amoung women truck drivers, their skills are probably about the same as the men's. Most of these sexost views, while true, still have their roots is the misogyny of our society not giving women the same opportunities as men, so we don't develop the same skills. That being said- we also don't suffer from as many ego induced "isms" which would blur our judgement, which is my chief complaint with men's self reporting of size. By the way, these are generalities and have been stated as such, so please don't respond telling me how you are the exception to the rule!! I already consider most of us here to be excpetions, in more than cock size.
dijstra: Why go with the picture and not the real thing...if you want to prove your size ...take your dick out and show her the real thing... G: "You are never only 7.5" long" B: " Yep I am - Got a ruler cos I'll prove it to you" G: either "fuck off" or "OK" You never know till you try...if you get the OK then you've better off... Still you might want to have here think its 13"... Try betting her that she can't take more than 6" anyway ... we used to bet blow jobs for muff diving ... but always got our cocks wet anyway ... Bro and I always used our dick size to get laid ... the totty at Sandhurst loved big dick ... the toffs in the UK tend to be little fuckers so two rough northern lads with big dicks, strange accents, and spit roasting as a party peice did well. Do agree that the girls we fucked had no idea on size. Though we did meet one who cold take us both together (highly recommended) and was convinced we were only 7" piece...obviouly had limited experience or her brains had been fucked out. D
MZ- There might be more to it than lack of opportunity. (There are certainly a lot of women with a sufficient number of opportunities to judge dick size to get good at it.). Really, the average male brain and the average feamle brain are just wired different. For example, 1 in 10 men have some degree of color blindness. Only 1 in 100 women have the same issue. There are simply some differences that probably have the roots well back in evolution. However, such as the examples you mention, there are those outside the norm. There are some issues that can simply be chalked up to experience. For instance, my ex measured me with a tape measure and came up with 9 1/2 inches - a good 1 1/4 inches longer than my best estimate. I must admit that I didn't correct her, nor did it piss me off when she told her friends this number. I figure they are all making similar mistakes, so I might as well leave the error out there out of a sense of fair competition.
Yeah, I know the gender's brains work differently, I have no problem accepting that. I'm quite satisfied with mine so it's not an attack on anyone's self esteem to say we're different. Also, there are very few women who actually measure cocks, and even fewer of those who do that do it right- topside, non-bonepressed measurement. No average woman would even know there's a "right way" to do it, so there's no way to know what they're measuring. I've heard guys on here talking about how they measure their dicks every so often to monitor the changes, some guys even every day, so at least they know what their own dick measures and can probably tell if one's bigger or smaller which gives a pretty good method of comparison, but amoung guys who don't measure at all, I wonder if they'd be any better than your average woman at guessing someone else's size? I dunno, but I agree with the original post that the size inflations are annoying, and lead men to believe all kinds of erroneous information about their own size and where they fit in.
I think it might be due to when a guy is with a naive teenage girl/virgin he's likely to exaggerate his size to impress her, knowing that she won't be none the wiser. Like a guy with 6" might say he's 8" and she'll believe him. So when she gets with a guy with 9" or something he'll be HUGE compared to her ex so she'll naturally assume he's bigger than he is, maybe 11" or 12" inch or summat. Just my theory anywayz, I'm probably, and usually, wrong lol
MZ, You're exactly right in every way...as usual. You hit the nail on the head, so to speak, when you said that most women have never even measured a cock before. And that was my original point. Every man has measured his penis at least a dozen times, no matter what he says. Men who are hung measure it more often b/c they can't believe they are that much of an exception when they see the 5.5" average statistics. I for one have a hard time believing I'm over 50% longer than the average guy. It's just what I've always been. Most women who see my penis ask me how large it is. Obviously it would be easy for me to lie and say 11 or 12 inches, but I don't. So I say 9" because I think it's acceptable to round to the neares 1/2 inch. But I think most hung guys do probably tell women they are a couple inches longer than they really are. And once again, don't forget they bragging aspect. Women brag about penis size nearly as much as men. "My boyfriend has a 10 incher!"
Just A Guy: Reminds me of the old joke... Q. Why do so many women suffer from poor depth perception? A. Because they are always being told 6 inches is 8 inches.
3XL: Actually, the human race as a whole is lousy at depth perception. Many magic illusions are based on our horrible depth perception. For example, the "sword box" illusion where a lady lies in a box, and a bunch of sword blades go through the box without really piercing the lady. This illusion works on both sexes! The only way our depth perception would be improved is to have our eyes set more widely appart, say like three or four feet. Have you ever really taken a look at the dashes on the highway? I'll never forget being told in driver's education (more than 20 years ago) that the dashes are 25 feet appart from 'lead edge' to 'lead edge'! When you dirve down the highway it doesn't seem possible, but if you pull over to a break down lane and look at the dashes from the side, you will be amazed at how long they are! Then you'll nod your head, "yup 25 feet!"
I personally am terrible at telling size by sight only. I learned to cheat and use my hands as a guide. Works well to estimate length.
Good point, 3XL. I have only measured maybe 5 dicks in my life, but they were fairly different sizes and I feel it gave me at least a point of perspective. Also I sew for a living (make costumes for strippers) so I know what incremental measurements look like very well. I think as a general rule women are not trained to think in terms of precision as much as men, but I won't conjecture as to whether they're predisposed to this or if it's more environmental, I just know I can do it. I also agree wholheartedly that's it's bragging rights for a woman often too.
when i got a look at my current boyfriend's penis for the very first time, it was still soft, plus my judgement may have been messed up because I had been drinking. I remember thinking to myself, "oh, that's about average size. well, fine." And then my mind went elsewhere and I forgot all about it as we continued making out for a while, having a great and lovely time... Later on when he first started pentrating me, I remember my eyes popping open at feeling his erect size and saying "oh my god" over and over again- I totally underestimated how big he would get.
Viviv, Many guys get that extra length and girth during sex because of the stimulation and the passion for their partner. I've had times when even I couldn't believe how big I got. Kudos to you for being able to give your boyfriend that extra je ne sais quoi! -Z My two cents' stock is worth. . . two cents.
Same goes for ejaculation distance and/or output. Speaking of, I got a highschool nickname of "puddles" from a girlfriend who said I just left puddles of sperm all over her (yes, she used sperm, not semen, much less cum). Whu? :huh: Puddles is terminology more apt for Gene Kelly circa Singin in the Rain'... :wacko:
