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All that is fine, but using people as an inspiration or template is part of the pop music game. Madonna herself has used everyone from Marilyn Monroe, Marlene Dietrich, Debbie Harry, etc. as templates, and sometimes out and out copies many photos of old world movie stars, singers, etc. (Prince's girl group Vanity 6 were truly the ones who started the being on stage in lingerie fad, but Madonna got the credit. Jody Watley was voguing long before Madonna was...) As I've said, there are sites dedicated to showing how much of a "rip-off artist" Madonna can be at times. She's even been sued several times for ripping off other people's songs. That's just the name of the game in pop music. As for BTW sounding like EY, I've always been in the camp that just can't hear it. They may have a similar cadence, but as for BTW being a total rip-off, to me, it's just not so. But again, that's pop music. Some songs just sound similar, even if it's not the intention of the artist.
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But the big, BIG difference is that Madonna didn't pretend to be 'inspired by no one'. Look at the Material Girl video; it's an obvious homage to her childhood idol and she gives the imagery a different meaning by saying ultimately, she wants love, not fur and diamonds. She wasn't trying to present that whole sequence as her own original idea - the whole point was that it was a very deliberate pastiche, given a new twist.

And the same goes with the other Hollywood iconography. Remember Vogue? She actually name checks the people she's inspired by in the spoken section.

But Gaga simply copies without giving due credit, or giving a new message. Another thing is that Madonna draws from different art forms, be it film, photography, paintings, and different eras, whereas Gaga is simply lifting the bulk of her work from a star in the same field as her - music - and still very much active. What is so different and new about all those images I posted above of Gaga wearing virtual replicas of Madonna's outfits? Nothing. She actually wants to be Madonna in a very unoriginal and stalker-ish way.
 
buffaloboy said:
She actually wants to be Madonna in a very unoriginal and stalker-ish way.
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I don't think so, but that's just me. If that's the case, then she wants to be Dale Bozzio because she posed on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine wearing a bubble outfit similar to something Bozzio wore in the '80s, she wants to be Janet because of the militant "Alejandro" video imagery ala "Rhythm Nation" and the hand-bra thing she wore in the "Applause" video, she wants to be David Bowie because of the clownish cover for the "Applause single", she wants to be Grace Jones because of her crazy stage outfits and antics, she wants to be Springsteen because of the anthemic qualities of songs like "You and I" and "Highway Unicorn", etc. It's usually the hardcore Madonna-philes who jump on everything Gaga does as "copying", anyway. Either way, I don't have a dog in this race because I don't know either of them and neither of these women are about to break me off a piece of their multi-million-dollar empires, so to go back and forth about who inspired who or who copied who is just, at the end of the day, futile. I do know that of all the female pop stars in her generation, Lady Gaga is the one who gets everyone talking, be it good or bad. And that's saying a lot for someone who is striving for longevity in the business.
 
The American academic Camille Paglia has stated:

''Gaga has borrowed so heavily from Madonna that it must be asked, at what point does homage become theft?''

It's not just 'Madonna-philes', as you call them, but pop culture critics at large that can see the way that Gaga is stealing from Madonna.

Look at Gaga's Wikipedia entries, especially for her songs like Born This Way and Alejandro - Madonna's influence is undeniable. Except by Gaga, who would rather everyone thought she was creating these images and ideas for the very first time.

But the (majority of the) public isn't that stupid, and on the whole, Gaga now has this 'poor man's Madonna' image, whilst her music becomes less and less popular (see latest single, Applause that has yet to make the top three in either the UK or the US).

In a few years time, people will be asking 'Whatever happened to Lady Gaga?', just like they did with with Paula Abdul after her initial burst of fame had subsided.

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There was something going on with his zipper during his "Blurred Lines" performance. He kept adjusting his zipper. I also noticed he kept his hand in his pocket as he walked to the stage, perhaps a semi had popped up, not sure what it was, but it was fun watching him .
 
Robin Thicke has no meat. He is adorable, but seriously needs to hit the gym. If you want to measure a package w/ meat, look at ANY of Pittbull's pics, then compare to Thicke.
 
I saw Robin on a morning talk show a while back, and I'm not a fan. He was wearing silk or something pants to show off an average-sized dick and acted like a tool.
 
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