Rudeness in threads

[Deno]

dude, know the panic attacks thing, I have anxiety issues as well, anti anxiety pills are cheap and work great. I am prescribed ativan or its generic term Lorazepam it's only like 25 bucks a month and it really helps in falling asleep. Don't let this place drive you nuts just get out take a breather and do something calming like a shower or a soak in the tub. Things always are more clearer after the storm.

 

[iain_ware]

thats sweet deno - top guy

 

[B_JasonDawgxxx]

dude, know the panic attacks thing, I have anxiety issues as well, anti anxiety pills are cheap and work great. I am prescribed ativan or its generic term Lorazepam it's only like 25 bucks a month and it really helps in falling asleep. Don't let this place drive you nuts just get out take a breather and do something calming like a shower or a soak in the tub. Things always are more clearer after the storm.

Thanks Deno.I have tryed some but the side affects were worse,My Dr is trying new things with me.I sometimes fall asleep than feel as if im falling ,its weird.But I shouldnt complain.Im healthy and alive,Right?

 

[B_dumbcow]

Again, I have to ask: why did you join? As long as I've been a member of this site, it has never been a "sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows" kind of place, definitely not for anyone with a thin skin or a sensitive ego.

I have no sympathy for anyone who joined simply because of the name of the site, without first looking at posts for a couple of weeks, and reading the ToS.

I would have just as little sympathy for anyone who joined "Council of Conservative Citizens" thinking it was republican organization, or anyone who joined "Concerned Women for America", thinking it's a women's rights group, or "Creativity Movement" thinking it's a community arts organization. And anyone who joins one of those groups, then whines that they don't like the membership or the way it's run, is just pathetic.

Same goes here. If you joined one or two months ago, don't whine to us that you don't like it here.

And as for the "ganging up" issue - for the third time, you need to stop being so egocentric and victimized, and think that just maybe the "clique" is not "ganging up" on you, so much as a number of people who independently disagree with you. And if you can't take disagreement, LPSG is not the place for you.

I wasn't expecting a sunshine and lollipops place, and I also wasn't expecting my own hate group a few months down the line.

I don't like how you have used words like again and for the third time. As far as I can remember, I have never had any contact with you whatsoever. No PMs, no quoting, nothing. Yet you are acting like we have a bad relationship.

It just seems that the list of people who genuinly dislike who I am is growing, and I really don't know who doesn't like me anymore, because I am indifferent to you, I assumed you would be indifferent to me. I guess I was wrong to think my "horrible, worthless personality" would ever be accepted by certain people.

 

[DC_DEEP]

I wasn't expecting a sunshine and lollipops place, and I also wasn't expecting my own hate group a few months down the line.

I don't like how you have used words like again and for the third time. As far as I can remember, I have never had any contact with you whatsoever. No PMs, no quoting, nothing. Yet you are acting like we have a bad relationship.

It just seems that the list of people who genuinly dislike who I am is growing, and I really don't know who doesn't like me anymore, because I am indifferent to you, I assumed you would be indifferent to me. I guess I was wrong to think my "horrible, worthless personality" would ever be accepted by certain people.

I don't care if you don't like how I used those words, but for clarity, I meant "for the third time in this thread, I'm asking someone 'why did you join?'" I'm not acting like anything.

So, where did you dredge up this "horrible, worthless personality" thing? Certainly not from me. You were correct in your original assumption that I'm indifferent toward you. I realize you spend a lot of time in the "count to 5" and similar threads, and that's fine; I neither like it or dislike it, and even at that, it doesn't make a damned bit of difference, because you do not need my approval to spend your time on this site as you see fit.

You realize, though, that your knee-jerk reaction that anyone who disagrees with you must hate you, isn't healthy? There are a few on here who are so overly sensitive that a simple "you're wrong" in response to their posts immediately translates into both undying hatred and a formal declaration of war.

Let me pose it to you this way. Take two situations: (1) you join a site, brand new, and in one week, you realize the membership is not what you thought, so you campaign relentlessly to get everyone who's been there for 4 years to change the site so that you like it better. (2) you've been a member of a particular site for about 4 years, and have many friends on that site; someone new joins, and within a week, is demanding that you stop posting the way you have for the past 4 years.

How do you feel in either of those situations?

 

[B_dumbcow]

I don't care if you don't like how I used those words, but for clarity, I meant "for the third time in this thread, I'm asking someone 'why did you join?'" I'm not acting like anything.

I apologize. I misinterprated what you said.

So, where did you dredge up this "horrible, worthless personality" thing? Certainly not from me. You were correct in your original assumption that I'm indifferent toward you. I realize you spend a lot of time in the "count to 5" and similar threads, and that's fine; I neither like it or dislike it, and even at that, it doesn't make a damned bit of difference, because you do not need my approval to spend your time on this site as you see fit.

That was a quote from someone who feels strongly about me, I didn't intend to make it seem like you said that to me.

Some people (not you) do call me out as being worthless and a waste of space. I no longer participate in certain areas of this site because as soon as I do, certain members suddenly start screaming abuse.

You realize, though, that your knee-jerk reaction that anyone who disagrees with you must hate you, isn't healthy? There are a few on here who are so overly sensitive that a simple "you're wrong" in response to their posts immediately translates into both undying hatred and a formal declaration of war.

I don't think that anyone who disagrees with me hates me. I have exchanged polite PMs with members who didn't like me, and some of these reject me, some of them accept me.
I want to get along with everyone on here, as I can accept that some of them do have reasons for disliking me and I know it's not as black and white as saying "I don't agree with something X said, therefore, I dislike everything about X" Unfortunately, some people tend to disagree with one or two points about me, and refuse to see any other side that they may like.

Let me pose it to you this way. Take two situations: (1) you join a site, brand new, and in one week, you realize the membership is not what you thought, so you campaign relentlessly to get everyone who's been there for 4 years to change the site so that you like it better. (2) you've been a member of a particular site for about 4 years, and have many friends on that site; someone new joins, and within a week, is demanding that you stop posting the way you have for the past 4 years.

How do you feel in either of those situations?

I believe that anybody should be able to recognize certain injustices, new or not. I do take on board all criticism, even when it is drowned in unecessary curses.

May I point out the example of the thread filled with hatred describing me as horrible things. I then went and explained as politely as possible that I wasn't going to change. I could have easily taken huge amounts of offence, but I chose not to. I didn't start whining and telling everyone that they were nasty and mean, which would have probably been expected, due to the nature of it all.
Surely that shows how I don't declare war on those who dislike who I am?
I honestly have nobody on my ignore list at the moment, and I'm not prepared to totally ignore anyone for a single thing they have said about me, and I hope others can act in the same way about me.
I also hope some people can realise there is more substance to me than they may think. I'm not totally inane.

 

[Mem]

The best thing is to ignore people who are rude or "mean". I know it's hard and I haven't always done it, but it is the best thing to do. I know there is a person who posts here who I think is a horrible, nasty person (many agree with me) but this person also has friends here, and some people like this person. I was never friendly with this person, they never gave me a chance, so I ignore the person as best I can.

I also have 2 members who I was friendly with at one point who stabbed me in the back. I can be cordial with them in a post, but as forgiving as I am, I am learning that it is better to move away from those type of people. Then there are a few that I dislike who I keep at arms length and try to ignore their posts. Usually they are friends with the nastier people here.

Another person was on my ass for a long time and I disliked them, but out of sight, out of mind. Same goes for another attention seeking troll; thank God he has not been around.

For the most part I try to get along well with most people here. Most of us post rude or mean things at one time or another. We don't want to be ignored when we do, but we should be.

 

[novice_btm]

...Im finding there are many cliques on here where they all seem to gang up on others??

"Calling cliques" is always the first defense when someone sees something they don't like on LPSG...

And seriously, if "THE Clique" has been reconvened, I really should've been notified! :tongue:

...I also joined because as I have discussed in threads etc,I have bad sleeping problems,Panic Attacks etc...

dude, know the panic attacks thing, I have anxiety issues as well...

Me three!

thats sweet deno - top guy

Mental note: Deno is a top. :tongue:

 

[naughty]

Jason,Though many of your comments may be legitimate, when you throw stones you have to expect them to be thrown right back. Unfortunately, everyone is not going to be sympathetic and many find weakness to be a sign for fresh feeding. Though you have no control over the comment and responses of others, you can make sure that YOU do not incite others or allow them to bait you. It will only be used as a stick to crack your head with in the future. DC,Though LPSG may have never been perfect it has taken a decidedly negative turn in the past three years. Having been here for quite a bit longer than my date of joining implies, I CAN remember a point where there was much less sniping and down right meaness. There have always been snarky people but the volume has increased exponentially. Everyone's experience here is not the same. For those who have found acceptance, it has probably been a much nicer experience than for those who shall we say find themselves out of step with the 100+ . I personally joined and stayed here because I was delighted to find a place to have intelligent and relatively stress free interaction with others. That, on the whole, has been absent for quite a while.

 

[Deno]

:redface:

 

[Lex]

And Im always amazed at those that gang up on others.

People who think that 2 or more people disagreeing with one person is ganging up have watched too much porn and don't live in the agreed-upon reality.

If someone does not want the face the possibility of more than one person disagreeing with something he/she posts, there is a rather simple solution: don't post. If someone doesn't have the conviction to stand behind your opinions and feelings, don't share them. It's really that simple.

I have been on both sides of the equation as have many others. Thinking that you are somehow above the group dynamics is inane. Everyone here takes his/her lumps and bumps--we all have. Those that do so and continue to thoughtfully post usually earn group respect even in the face of unpopular opinions. Those that do not, well, they are typically not received well.

Funny how you choose to just post my responses not what lead up to them.hmmmm let me go dig up some.

It's funnier that you cannot seem to perceive your own ironic hypocrisy in even starting this thread.

 

[D_Frederick Fuzzynuts]

i think that there is absolutely no fucking point in justing coming on here to put people down

 

[iain_ware]

Ditto to 11inchbill's comment

 

[ZOS23xy]

People who think that 2 or more people disagreeing with one person is ganging up have watched too much porn and don't live in the agreed-upon reality.


It's funnier that you cannot seem to perceive your own ironic hypocrisy in even starting this thread.

And I'll add a few more words:

Many years back, my sister in law--a vengeful verbal harpy was chatting with her friends about some other "friends" who she tore into and dissed them verbally.

My brother in law videotaped this.

He showed it to her later.

She totally lacked the comprehension that it was her. She kept asking "who is that bitch?" Told it was her, she said it was a lie.

Okay Dawg, can you see what is happening here? If you can't see it, fine. I'll keep it in mind whenever I see your posts.

Sleeping problems:

Learn self hypnosis. Or herbally, there's melatonin, l-trytophan, valerian, hops, ashwaghanda, fo-ti, aspirin, etc. all which I use, rotate and get to sleep with. I've often had insomnia and gone on line here and typed out a few things. I dropped hops when I discovered I had a mild allergy to it.

But I don't think I've ever come on board and displayed a lack of taste and empathy. Sometimes I'm a little dweeby and put downish when I discover someone using flawed logic and childish assumptions to lead to a conclusion.

Take care.

 

[WifeOfBath]

"Calling cliques" is always the first defense when someone sees something they don't like on LPSG. This site has always been "a tough crowd." Have you ever thought that it may be you who is out of step, not every other person in the parade?

I have no interest in being a member of a site where the first rule is that everyone play nice with each other. We are all adults. We are going to get into heated, passionate debates. If we had to be nice all the time, there would be no room for debate because someone's feelings would invariably be hurt when someone didn't agree with them. I wil lcall people out as I see fit. They have every right to do the same to me. I don't try to be unnecessarily mean, but I also don't censor saying things that I think are true or need to be said in favor of being nice. In my mind, being nice is dishonest and weak. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Stand behind your convictions, not behind some useless social protocol that tries to placate everyone but actually does nothing. Debates and discussions are not always nice. If you can be an adult about it, you can vociferously disagree with someone and still get along the next day even if you got into an argument. Such is life as an adult.

Some people do gang up on others and there are certain members who are very outspoken, possibly too outspoken at times.

That's simply your opinion and is no more valid than anyone else's. Actually, it's less valid than anyone who has spent a marked amount of time on this site. You simply don't know the culture here very well-- though admittedly, I don't seem to either anymore.

And as for the "ganging up" issue - for the third time, you need to stop being so egocentric and victimized, and think that just maybe the "clique" is not "ganging up" on you, so much as a number of people who independently disagree with you. And if you can't take disagreement, LPSG is not the place for you.

I agree completely DC. QFMFT!

Thanks Deno.I have tryed some but the side affects were worse,My Dr is trying new things with me.I sometimes fall asleep than feel as if im falling ,its weird.But I shouldnt complain.Im healthy and alive,Right?

Yeah, me four, after novice. It's no excuse for whatever behavior you're trying to use it to excuse you and your transparent sympathy scheme is sickening. You can't drag out your various and sundry maladies in an attempt to get people to feel bad for you once you realize you dug yourself quite a deep hole.

I want to get along with everyone on here... <snip>

Which is exactly why I find you to be so goddamned irritating. You've boxed yourself into being a perpetual asskisser with no hope of having any opinion or strong personality trait for fear of offending someone. Therefore everything you post is insipid and vapid, or incredibly saccharine.

Maybe there's something wrong with me, but I'd much rather people be genuine and passionate and deal with the fallout than have people be nice above all else. Fuck nice.

 

[marleyisalegend]

FWIW, I think a balance is whats desired Some people are babyish and cry foul as soon as someone disagrees, others are genuinely hurt. Awhile back I had someone who made inconsiderate jokes about my experiences being molested. There's a big difference between "I disagree and this is why" and "You're a stupid fucktard who should delete your membership because everything you say is stupid and your legs are fat."

No one should be censored, but under that guise I could log on here and diss Jews, women, blacks, whites, guys with small dicks, gay men, straight guys, muscleheads, and anybody else I see fit for ridicule and ostricization. I've always been on the "speak your mind" side of the fence, but more and more I'm trying to find a way to do that without making the person I'm talking to feel like they're inadequate and unwanted. I don't think LPSG should just be run for people with elephant-thick skin any more than it should be for people who can't handle being disagreed with. But the people who "speak their minds" don't always do it in an adult fashion. To the contrary, there's often childish namecalling and strongly worded personal insults involved. There are many members here who stand by their words and speak without filter and still don't ever find a need to insult or demean.

 

[naughty]

FWIW, I think a balance is whats desired Some people are babyish and cry foul as soon as someone disagrees, others are genuinely hurt. Awhile back I had someone who made inconsiderate jokes about my experiences being molested. There's a big difference between &quot;I disagree and this is why&quot; and &quot;You're a stupid fucktard who should delete your membership because everything you say is stupid and your legs are fat.&quot;

No one should be censored, but under that guise I could log on here and diss Jews, women, blacks, whites, guys with small dicks, gay men, straight guys, muscleheads, and anybody else I see fit for ridicule and ostricization. I've always been on the &quot;speak your mind&quot; side of the fence, but more and more I'm trying to find a way to do that without making the person I'm talking to feel like they're inadequate and unwanted. I don't think LPSG should just be run for people with elephant-thick skin any more than it should be for people who can't handle being disagreed with. But the people who &quot;speak their minds&quot; don't always do it in an adult fashion. To the contrary, there's often childish namecalling and strongly worded personal insults involved. There are many members here who stand by their words and speak without filter and still don't ever find a need to insult or demean.

THANK YOU.

 

[joybunny]

Im always amazed that there are people that come on to lpsg simply to put others down.This is a fun site,So many areas to enjoy ones self.Yet some people come on here only to bash or put others down.Why? Do you guys think they feel better about themselfs when doing this?
Someone brought an older thread back to life simply to say they thought I was dirty.lol.I mean whats the point???

Discuss.:smile:

You are right. It's terrible that someone actually took the time to dredge up an old topic just to bash you. I was having a bad day earlier this week happen to read one of your posts. I can't remember the topic but it was too funny! Thanks!

 

[B_JasonDawgxxx]

You know my Grandmother always tells me.Everything is a learning lesson.And this thread if anything has opened my eyes as to who is a friend here.Some of the truly mean posts on here came from guys sending me pms flirting etc.Well as many of you have said simply put them on ignore and move forward which I have.Im sorry this thread opened up such an ugly can of worms.It wasnt meant as such.Anyways Im off my soap box,I hope you all have a great day.Im off to the beach.Cheers,Jason.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

JasonDawg

As Snoozan would say- FUCK'EM!

Grow a pair....you can't live in this world as a gay man and not receive some sort of criticism...thicken up that skin boy. You should be a pro by now about letting things roll off your back.