Stop Bitching About Circumcision

[deleted15807]

So OP said stop bitching about it and what do we have from the perpetually obtuse? Yet another bitchfest...........

There's nothing wrong with a circumcised penis.
There is nothing wrong with an uncircumcised penis...........

SNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Anyway........

*Yawn* Here's a thought: most people here don't care. We're all well and truly fed up of this huge bitching about circumcision, and what exactly do you (and others) hope to achieve by being a keyboard warrior against people who you will never convince of your point?? (Aside from clogging up the forum and giving everyone a headache, that is).

Yep I've been on the planet for many many years and the subject has NEVER once come up. Not once. Most people have figured out there are more important things in life. Only in this netherworld of LPSG and the internet can it never be put to rest.

 

[dickman45885]

My parents did what they thought was best for me. I cannot fault them the decision.

 

[rob_just_rob]

http://www.lpsg.org/30889-ending-circumcision-threads.html

http://www.lpsg.org/30910-ending-ending-circumcision-threads-thread.html

 

[AngelKOF]

LAWL at Rob's post

AAANYWAY, the lack of common sense and basic anatomical/sexual knowledge in some the previous posts saddens me, as does the apparent inability of some people to actually read a post and understand the point being made. I suppose I should have known better when I posted this in the first place, but guess that's what ya get for being an optimist.

I WOULD however like to point out how foolish this debate is. Consider that the goal of most anti-circ discussions I've encountered was to convince a prospective parent that circumcision is unnecessary (and in the eyes of some, a evil mutilation that should be discarded altogether). And in some cases, there are pro-circ discussions similarly trying to convince a parent that circumcision is great and even necessary. Well wake up and check reality....prospective parents are not gonna make up their mind based off what a stranger online says! they'll ask their family doctor, close friends, and relatives. So you're might as well debate the issue with a brick wall.

And don't bother with flames or attacks against my post in particular, cus I won't bother to read this thread anymore.

 

[mayisay]

This is an amazing explanation about the penis's pleasure zones.

Purpose of the Foreskin Explained in Pictures, Video & Text

I learned a lot, and I'd be interested to hear anyone's comments.

 

[lefebvre254]

Seriously, you didn't think that starting a topic telling everyone to "stop bitching about circumcision" would not be, instead, turned into a topic about everyone bitching about circumcision?

 

[voidout]

opcorn:

 

[TLCTugger]

if there's a mention of whether the cock involved is cut or uncut, they will immediately jump in with the typical rant about how they were "violated as a child, having something so wrongfully taken from them, nobody should EVER be circumcised, blah blah blah"

I'd like to address not the case against circumcision, but your stated lack of appreciation for the motivation of people arguing against circumcision.

I think if you re-frame the hypothetical discussion and instead imagine people talking about mutilated female genitals you might start to understand. If understanding is actually your goal picture the conversation:

"I banged that hot Moraccan waitress last weekend."

"Dude! Solid. So she's clipped, right?"
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Screeching halt! Would anyone be able to stomach any further conversation revolving around how much more or less someone might enjoy sex with a woman whose clitoral hood was excised? Probably not. You'd say "What the fuck is wrong with you? That genital cutting is nasty!"

I'm not saying you have to agree that FGM is comparable to MGM, but if you can imagine the appropriate outrage people feel about FGM, you might understand people's motivation to make the case against male circumcision, and to not let statements like "being circumcised is fine; cock is cock" go unchallenged.

 

[mandoman]

So OP said stop bitching about it and what do we have from the perpetually obtuse? Yet another bitchfest...........



Anyway........



Yep I've been on the planet for many many years and the subject has NEVER once come up. Not once. Most people have figured out there are more important things in life. Only in this netherworld of LPSG and the internet can it never be put to rest.

Sorry I bore you, when I say there is nothing wrong with a circumcised penis.
Which way do you want it, anyway, you self-contradiction machine?

 

[darkstorm]

im uncut, and i really dont care if im with apartner thats cut or uncut although most people in the uk are uncut but anyway its nto soemthing i really think about in much detail, but ive never actually heard of a child having problems off keeping the cock clean when uncut, and there is different infections that are easier to get when cut or uncut, so in that respect it doesnt matter much either. however the foreskin can be beneficial in intercourse as helps with the lubrication of the glans.

 

[deleted490182]

I was circumsised as a child. Would I have had a bigger penis if I wasnt?

On a side issue - I remember the pain very well still today when i used to be put in a bath by the nurse after the opp and for months later and that was when I was 2! So I do think that children remember the discomfort. And on another side side issuer I am happy with my little un!

 

[Incocknito]

A commonly cited incidence statistic for pathological phimosis is
1% of uncircumcised males.


Phimosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rate of circumcison in the US: 90%


Disparity?

If circumcision is warranted and medically required then by all means, it should be performed.

But when circumcision is completely unwarranted and when a baby boy has lived with his foreskin for literally only a few minutes before it is removed, then circumcision becomes the cruel and sinister abuse of a child. Who in all likelihood would never have had a problem with his foreskin.

In fact, instead of pain, he would have received pleasure from it.

You can try to justify it to yourself but there is no way anyone can try and tell me that Routine Infant Circumcision is justified or warranted.

 

[eurotop40]

A commonly cited incidence statistic for pathological phimosis is
1% of uncircumcised males.


Phimosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rate of circumcison in the US: 90%


Disparity?

If circumcision is warranted and medically required then by all means, it should be performed.

But when circumcision is completely unwarranted and when a baby boy has lived with his foreskin for literally only a few minutes before it is removed, then circumcision becomes the cruel and sinister abuse of a child. Who in all likelihood would never have had a problem with his foreskin.

In fact, instead of pain, he would have received pleasure from it.

You can try to justify it to yourself but there is no way anyone can try and tell me that Routine Infant Circumcision is justified or warranted.

I agree. Now tell me, do Jews and Moslems then abuse their male children? I would guess so.

 

[JTalbain]

I agree. Now tell me, do Jews and Moslems then abuse their male children? I would guess so.

Not sure about the Muslim population of the world, but I know a great many Jews have begun viewing the practice as archaic and unnecessary. Just as many people would think a support group for those with large penises would be weird, there are support groups for Jews who elect not to circumcise.

While I would eventually like to see laws that protect the rights of young boys like the Netherlands has (they made non-medical circumcision on boys under the age of 18 illegal), I think it would be sufficient to enforce circumcisions being treated like every other procedure. If all the information was given, parents would at least go beyond the mindset of thinking it's a decision of no consequence. Most parents are honestly trying to do what they think is the best thing for their child. Give them all the information so they can see what it actually is.

 

[SirConcis]

People argue for/against circ because in the end, it defines their own virility and they will fight to defend the style of dick they have.

For an uncut to admit that circumcised is better is tantamount to admitting his dick is inferior. And men tend to avoid admitting their dick is inferior.

 

[JTalbain]

People argue for/against circ because in the end, it defines their own virility and they will fight to defend the style of dick they have.

For an uncut to admit that circumcised is better is tantamount to admitting his dick is inferior. And men tend to avoid admitting their dick is inferior.

So who do you explain the people who are circumcised and feel intact is better?

 

[eggcrate]

90% circumcision rate in the US? Thankfully, it's a lot less. Recent rates in the US are just over 50%. Rates in the Western states have been in the 33 % range for years- it is becoming more uncommon to see a young guy who is cut these days in California. U.S. Circumcision Statistics

 

[voidout]

So who do you explain the people who are circumcised and feel intact is better?

...because forums and threads like this one, and so many others, exist and make them feel inferior or abnormal.

 

[JTalbain]

...because forums and threads like this one, and so many others, exist and make them feel inferior or abnormal.

I suppose there is some truth in that, which is why I try to keep things as logical and informative as possible. I think tossing around words and phrases like "mutilated" and "baby butchering" don't do very much for the pro-intact cause.

But if men happen to feel inadequete or harmed after finding out they are missing parts, it doesn't mean that their feelings are unjustified.

 

[Pye]

I have read many of the threads on circumcision and the evidence seems to be clear...people are ignorant.

There is no evidence that there is a need for routine infant circumcision. Any evidence that there was years ago has been refuted.

There is nothing wrong with a cut or uncut penis.

Most of the threads try to state that the practice of parents making the decision for a healthy child should NOT be allowed but they get sidetracked by people bitching about the existence of another thread. The issue is about whose right it is to make the choice. There is nothing wrong with circumcision but it a decision that should be made by the owner of the penis.

Why is that basic fact so hard to understand?
Why do people on this board, that seem to be very wise in other instances, throw their common sense out the window when it comes to circumcision?

I am circumcised. I like the way my penis looks. I would have liked to have been the one to choose for myself. I don't hold my parents to blame for their decision at the time. The evidence and reasons that they had for making the decision were WRONG when it occurred.

The constant bitching about circ threads is more annoying than the circ threads themselves. If you don't like the topic DON'T READ IT!

This board is here to support and educate people and I'm sure that some people didn't know that circumcision is UNNECESSARY. I'm sure some people's minds were changed when they read the threads on a whim and decided not to circ their newborn.

Also, anyone that didn't want to see more bitching about circumcision wouldn't actually start a thread about it. Thank you anyway because people need to change their minds about this topic...maybe you helped another infant escape the knife.