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This is my first time posting here so let me know if this isn't the right place


I recently found out that my husband has been cheating on me online. We are both gay men, 36 and 37 years old.

He was sexting other men on Grindr and sharing underwear and nude photos on Instagram. He had a Close Friends list with about thirty gay men. For months, he posted stories in his underwear and flirted with them. I found out by accident. I do not believe he had sex with any of them, but to me, it was still cheating.

We have been married for two years and together for six years total.

Before I found out, our relationship was already strained. He had become very messy at home. He would not clean, would not do laundry, and left the bathroom dirty. Sometimes he would not even flush. I tolerated it because I wanted peace and kept telling myself he was stressed from work.

We both work from home and used to get along well. Over the past year, that changed. He became consumed by work. Even though we both worked full time, most of the housework fell on me.

About three months ago, he suddenly started cleaning the bathroom and paying more attention to his hygiene. He bought new underwear and seemed more focused on his appearance. I took this as progress. I thought he was finally making an effort. What I did not realize was that he never wore that underwear with me. I assumed he was tired or overwhelmed. When we did have sex, he never finished.

Around the same time, he became anxious about money. We have always kept separate finances and split expenses evenly. When he suddenly became cheap and secretive, I knew something was wrong.

I eventually opened his laptop and guessed his password. He had shared passwords with me before, and it was easy to figure out. He did not have social media logged in, but he had saved screenshots. There were screenshots of every Instagram story he posted and a list of his Close Friends.

One of the men in those photos was Adrian. Adrian is married to Juan, a man I hooked up with about twelve years ago. Juan and I never had a friendship or any kind of relationship after that. By coincidence, we later ended up living in the same neighborhood. We would run into each other occasionally, exchange a polite hello, and move on.

I had told my husband about Juan long ago. He was just an old Tinder hookup from over a decade ago. There was nothing more to it.

What I later learned is that Adrian resented me because of that history. He disliked seeing me and my husband together and happy. He started messaging my husband and engaging with his posts. It felt intentional, like he wanted to prove that my marriage was not as solid as it appeared.

Seeing Adrian’s photos on my husband’s laptop sent me over the edge.

I confronted my husband immediately. At first, he tried to gaslight me. He does not know that I accessed his laptop. I told him that one of his Close Friends had told me, which was believable. After a lot of yelling and crying, he admitted everything. He apologized and said it was just a kink. He said he did not feel comfortable sharing that part of himself with me.

I told him how angry and exhausted I felt. I was worn down by his messiness, his obsession with work, and now his betrayal. He told me he hated when I played Nintendo in bed and that those were the moments when he would sneak away to take photos. I feel like his response was not proportional. I would only play Nintendo because he was still working late into the night.

He also admitted that Adrian had liked his pictures first and that he took the bait and engaged with him.

After a few days of anger and tears, I told him I forgave him.

I want to forgive him. I believe he did not sleep with anyone, and I believe he will not do it again. I believe he gave in to temptation and poor judgment.

What hurts the most is not Grindr or his kink. It is how public it was. It feels humiliating. It feels like I was being mocked. He was not discreet. Some of the people on that Close Friends list are people I know. I feel exposed and ashamed, even though I did nothing wrong.

Right now, I feel angry and depressed. I do not know if our relationship can recover. I also do not know if I want it to. I know I am furious at Adrian, but I do not even know how to confront him. Before this, he was just the husband of someone I dated briefly over a decade ago. Now he feels like an unwanted part of my marriage.
 
This is my first time posting here so let me know if this isn't the right place


I recently found out that my husband has been cheating on me online. We are both gay men, 36 and 37 years old.

He was sexting other men on Grindr and sharing underwear and nude photos on Instagram. He had a Close Friends list with about thirty gay men. For months, he posted stories in his underwear and flirted with them. I found out by accident. I do not believe he had sex with any of them, but to me, it was still cheating.

We have been married for two years and together for six years total.

Before I found out, our relationship was already strained. He had become very messy at home. He would not clean, would not do laundry, and left the bathroom dirty. Sometimes he would not even flush. I tolerated it because I wanted peace and kept telling myself he was stressed from work.

We both work from home and used to get along well. Over the past year, that changed. He became consumed by work. Even though we both worked full time, most of the housework fell on me.

About three months ago, he suddenly started cleaning the bathroom and paying more attention to his hygiene. He bought new underwear and seemed more focused on his appearance. I took this as progress. I thought he was finally making an effort. What I did not realize was that he never wore that underwear with me. I assumed he was tired or overwhelmed. When we did have sex, he never finished.

Around the same time, he became anxious about money. We have always kept separate finances and split expenses evenly. When he suddenly became cheap and secretive, I knew something was wrong.

I eventually opened his laptop and guessed his password. He had shared passwords with me before, and it was easy to figure out. He did not have social media logged in, but he had saved screenshots. There were screenshots of every Instagram story he posted and a list of his Close Friends.

One of the men in those photos was Adrian. Adrian is married to Juan, a man I hooked up with about twelve years ago. Juan and I never had a friendship or any kind of relationship after that. By coincidence, we later ended up living in the same neighborhood. We would run into each other occasionally, exchange a polite hello, and move on.

I had told my husband about Juan long ago. He was just an old Tinder hookup from over a decade ago. There was nothing more to it.

What I later learned is that Adrian resented me because of that history. He disliked seeing me and my husband together and happy. He started messaging my husband and engaging with his posts. It felt intentional, like he wanted to prove that my marriage was not as solid as it appeared.

Seeing Adrian’s photos on my husband’s laptop sent me over the edge.

I confronted my husband immediately. At first, he tried to gaslight me. He does not know that I accessed his laptop. I told him that one of his Close Friends had told me, which was believable. After a lot of yelling and crying, he admitted everything. He apologized and said it was just a kink. He said he did not feel comfortable sharing that part of himself with me.

I told him how angry and exhausted I felt. I was worn down by his messiness, his obsession with work, and now his betrayal. He told me he hated when I played Nintendo in bed and that those were the moments when he would sneak away to take photos. I feel like his response was not proportional. I would only play Nintendo because he was still working late into the night.

He also admitted that Adrian had liked his pictures first and that he took the bait and engaged with him.

After a few days of anger and tears, I told him I forgave him.

I want to forgive him. I believe he did not sleep with anyone, and I believe he will not do it again. I believe he gave in to temptation and poor judgment.

What hurts the most is not Grindr or his kink. It is how public it was. It feels humiliating. It feels like I was being mocked. He was not discreet. Some of the people on that Close Friends list are people I know. I feel exposed and ashamed, even though I did nothing wrong.

Right now, I feel angry and depressed. I do not know if our relationship can recover. I also do not know if I want it to. I know I am furious at Adrian, but I do not even know how to confront him. Before this, he was just the husband of someone I dated briefly over a decade ago. Now he feels like an unwanted part of my marriage.
Just start saving just some extra cash for emergencies
 
Oh boy…
I honestly don’t think I’m the right person to give any advice, but I’m sorry to hear that.
 
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Sorry to say but your relationship is over, you need to admit it.

The betrayal is the sign of the end. In straight marriage most couple stay together only for the children, in your case you have nothing what can keep you in relationship
 
Preoccupation with money, sudden changes in personal hygiene, new underwear, and, most importantly, he doesn't ejaculate when they're together. It's stupid to say, "I don't think he's had sex with any of them." Love yourself more, don't be silly.
 
Really, you don't think your husband cheated on you ? Got on Grindr and other app's and shared pic's and received them. I hate to tell you when you are in a relationship, your friends are the ones they most likely cheat with.
95% of my friends have gone after my partners and hooked up with them. They always want what you have and want to take it for a test drive. So, all the friends on that list most likely hooked up with him.
Most of them have partners or husbands too. This is just cheating. Does not take long to hook up right.

Your husband confessed a huge thing to you. He was doing things with the other guys he does not want to do with you. Kinks. wild sex. quick hook up's. It's a rush for him and the others.
But he can come home to you back to normal and safety and back to normal. ( Think on that )

You have nothing to be a shamed of with your friends. They were stabbing you in the back and sexting with you partner sending pic's and trust me they hooked up. So that's on them.

Question is you forgave him he won't stop. Just get better at hiding it. That underwear was not bought for you. You need to have a discussion about if you want an open relationship or closed. You will see your friends different now.

Only after you break up with your partners you will find out more of what and who they did. People will talk then. 100% of people will never say anything while you are together but after it fair game and they will talk. It's crazy but I have seen it in my relationships and lot of other ones. Happens every time.
 
Thanks for the advise everyone.

The worst part is that I would've said yes to opening the relationship, but under our own terms. As a gay man I understand kinks and not following heteronormativity.

My biggest annoyance is how sloppy he was, and how he kind of wanted to punish me. If he had just been horny, he wouldve fucked someone and kept it a secret, instead of sharing stories to 30 people on Instagram.

I know I sound naive and stupid by giving him another chance. I don't need him financially, I own the home where we live and I owned it before we got married. I have a big family that loves him and they're one of our biggest social circles. His family is very indifferent. I think he has more to lose than me.

It's been about two weeks since I caught him and we've been having some tough and honest conversations.

I'm aware of his betrayal and how stupid I sound but I want to give this one more chance. Still, I've now feel very insecure and uncertain.

Thanks again for the advise
 
Has he came clean ? Has he admitted to fucking the other guys and what friends he hooked up with so you know who they are when you face them ? I bet he has not.
I agree with you if he would have been honest and talked to you about an open relationship or what ever version cucking or what ever might have worked better. And yes he need to get off his ass and clean it and himself too. Though he might have that kinky dirty smell thing some guys are into. Ask him ?
Damn dude you own the house he has so much to lose here. He needs to come clean and not leave you out in the cold. Be interesting to hear what he wrote to other people . Not like he did not post it for everyone to see. Don't know why he won't be honest with you after doing stuff like that.
 
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He admitted Adrian liked his pictures. After a few days of anger and tears, I told him I forgave him.
Hello Jordan. Note: This site enables one to experience the thrill of being an online an exhibitionist too - which isn't equivalent to having sex with multiple people. Just come to terms with the reality of living with an exhibitionist - as opposed to starting an open relationship. I suggest telling him you are contented to live with his kink, provided he doesn't have sex with outsiders, helps keep the house clean & accepts your love of Nintendo. Can you truly forgive & forget, set your anger aside, accept his kink and coexist happily together henceforth? If you can, that would be the best way to deal with Adrian - letting him see the two of you are still happy together.
 
Thanks everyone for the kind words and support.

To add more context, I confronted my husband the same day I found out. I discovered everything in the morning while he was at the office, so I had the whole day to organize my thoughts and figure out how I wanted to approach him.

I started with the Grindr part and left out what I knew about Instagram. That felt like the least concerning piece to me. I wasn’t angry about his kinks or even the exhibitionism. I wanted to see how far he would go to lie. I’m not judging exhibitionism on its own. I’ve shared a few photos here too, mostly out of boredom, and always with strangers.

I told him someone had reached out to me saying they’d seen him on Grindr. (I’d found an email showing he’d been billed for Grindr Premium.) He denied it, so I said, “I’ll give you another chance to be honest with me.” After that, he admitted he was on Grindr. I asked if there was anything else he’d done, and he said no. He tried to brush it off as something silly that meant nothing.

Then I asked about Instagram, and he still denied it. I told him someone had mentioned his “Close Friends” and his stories. He started crying and confessed. He said it had been going on for a couple of months and that it was his way of blowing off stress from work.

That’s when I finally let out a lot of what I’d been holding in: my frustration with his messiness and sloppiness, and how he was presenting a cleaner, better version of himself to strangers while exposing me to humiliation. I asked him if he was punishing me by putting us out there like that on Instagram.

He brought up things he was mad about too, like me playing Nintendo. Big deal. I played Nintendo because I was alone in bed while he worked late into the night. But he’d been resentful about it. He was also mad that I had to work the Monday after our wedding. I was new at my job and didn’t have enough PTO, so it wasn’t really my choice. Still, he admitted he’d been holding onto little resentments like that since day one of our marriage.

And that’s what makes this so confusing. Aside from the issues we’ve been dealing with, we’ve actually had a pretty harmonious life. We live comfortably, we take nice vacations, we’re healthy, and we both enjoy running and working out together. We get along well with our families, and my family especially loves him.

I do believe we have a marriage worth fighting for. But I also feel like he’s getting off too easily. It feels like there were no real consequences, and I’m scared he’ll just learn to hide his infidelity better.

I still have access to his computer and he hasn’t changed the password. He has no idea how I found him out. I don’t want to be the kind of person that invades his privacy, but he didn’t even keep his issues private in the first place.

I’ve booked a therapy session and I’m going to get professional support, but I’ve also really appreciated the messages from all of you. I’ve felt genuinely supported.
 
Each relationship is different, but it doesn't look like you're being honest with each other. He's lying to you about stuff, and you're lying to him by not telling him the truth about how you found out. Why are you both keeping secrets from each other? Can you really expect him to be honest if you aren't being honest?
Good luck with the therapy!
 
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Hi everyone, original poster here. When I first wrote my post a month ago, I had just found out what my husband did. Everything was very recent then, and it still feels that way now.

We’re both in individual therapy and learning how to live with what happened. We still have a lot to heal from, and we’re both trying new things. We’re having more open conversations about sex, about what we want for the future, and about our goals. We had talked about these things before, but now we’re being more honest and direct.

We created a list of tasks to keep our home clean so I don’t feel burdened or overwhelmed. He’s also been more mindful about his hygiene and more proactive in general.

I’m still feeling sad and hurt. My therapist says that’s part of the process. I can’t expect to heal in such a short time.

As gay men, we both grew up learning to hide parts of ourselves from our families and sometimes even from ourselves. It’s easy to fall into being secretive. I told him he doesn’t have to share every passing thought, but I do want him to feel comfortable talking openly about how he feels about sex, money, health, and other important things.

I still don’t have any guarantees that he won’t cheat again. We’ll have to rebuild trust over time and decide every day to fight for the love we have for each other.
 
Every one of my relationships my partners have cheated on me. Some more than others. Been with my current partner for over 30 years. It takes give and take. We all have secrets we don't tell all. I did not know what a cuck was in my late 20's , but knew my partner cheated on me a lot and it turned me on with this one. I did love him but, in the end, he fell in love with another guy. I moved on quickly and then he wanted me back because that guy did not work out. But I chose to stay with my new guy and now over 30 later still going strong. Some cucking too.
Being open minded is a good time. We all have kinks. You might want to talk to you BF about that and see what his are. He might be in to smells or arm pits type of thing. Or other things. It's cool you don't have to like them or join in. But allow him to explore some of his kinks. Cheating or playing with others or being watched. S&M, WS, Fisting, You won't know if you don't ask and keep an open mind.

What are your thoughts on this?
 
an online exhibitionist isn't equivalent to having sex with multiple people. Can you truly forgive & forget, set your anger aside, accept his kink and coexist happily together henceforth?

I’m not judging exhibitionism on its own. I’ve shared a few photos here too, with strangers. My frustration = he was presenting a cleaner, better version of himself to strangers, while exposing me to humiliation. I asked if he was punishing me by putting us out there like that on Instagram.
I believe we have a marriage worth fighting for. But I feel like he’s getting off too easily. It feels like there were no real consequences
You have no evidence of him having extramarital sex - so please stop labeling/viewing his exhibitionism as infidelity or cheating. Furthermore he explained what he did wasn't done to punish or humiliate you. Instead of fearing he would do so again, just leave him to it. View it as a harmless kink - that's all - and be happy that he's keeping the house clean too. I hope the two of you can achieve a peaceful coexistence and attend couples therapy together - as opposed to seeing separate therapists.
 
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Hi! Original poster here. It’s been about 2 months since I found out what my husband had been doing.

I was hoping things would be better by now, but he kept up his behavior and I’ve found out about new things he’s done since then.

Over the last few weeks we talked more. I tried to create a space where he could be open about his desires, kinks, whatever. I bought one of those instant cameras that prints the photos right away and took some nude pictures of myself so he could take them on his business trips. I bought a bunch of jockstraps, thongs, and different sex toys. I even told him I would be okay with opening the marriage or inviting someone for a threesome. I was basically willing to try anything to keep him happy.

One thing I realized is that since we both work from home and spend almost all our time together, we probably needed more time apart. Time to miss each other and build some sexual tension again. I’ve always tried to give him space, but he hates being alone and always wants to tag along with whatever I’m doing. Still, I insisted on going to the office once or twice a week so he could have his own time. I also signed up for some classes so I could have hobbies and keep my mind busy.

My self-worth has been at an all time low. I feel old, ugly, and unwanted, so I knew I needed to change something.

Unfortunately none of it worked. He didn’t like the photos. He said I looked silly. He didn’t like the jockstraps or any of the toys I bought. He said he wasn’t comfortable bringing someone else into the relationship. And he actually resented me for having my own space. On the days I went to the office, he wouldn’t even talk to me.

Last week when I got home from the office he seemed upset. I asked if something was wrong and he said no. Later I checked the logs on our smart door and saw that he had been gone for two hours that morning. He had even woken me up early so I wouldn't be late for work. Turns out he really wanted me out of the house.

I ended up falling back into one of my worst habits and checked his computer while he was in the shower. I saw an email from Uber showing that he had gone to a happy ending massage. He would always use Uber instead of the car whenever he didn't want to be tracked. I also saw more screenshots of him sexting with other men and more subscriptions to Grindr and other hookup apps. All of this happened after our first fight at the start of the year.

I finally confronted him and told him I knew what he’d been doing. I said we were basically back to square one. It seems that his kink is all about the transgression, about crossing the line and getting away with it. Every time I catch him doing something, he just finds a new app, a new outlet. Some people are willing to let that slide and live with that, but I don't. It's not what I want.

We’re now going through a separation, and most likely a divorce. It's been a very sad period for me, but when I finally realized I can't do anything to fix the relationship, it gave me a sense of peace.
 
Hi! Original poster here. It’s been about 2 months since I found out what my husband had been doing.

I was hoping things would be better by now, but he kept up his behavior and I’ve found out about new things he’s done since then.

Over the last few weeks we talked more. I tried to create a space where he could be open about his desires, kinks, whatever. I bought one of those instant cameras that prints the photos right away and took some nude pictures of myself so he could take them on his business trips. I bought a bunch of jockstraps, thongs, and different sex toys. I even told him I would be okay with opening the marriage or inviting someone for a threesome. I was basically willing to try anything to keep him happy.

One thing I realized is that since we both work from home and spend almost all our time together, we probably needed more time apart. Time to miss each other and build some sexual tension again. I’ve always tried to give him space, but he hates being alone and always wants to tag along with whatever I’m doing. Still, I insisted on going to the office once or twice a week so he could have his own time. I also signed up for some classes so I could have hobbies and keep my mind busy.

My self-worth has been at an all time low. I feel old, ugly, and unwanted, so I knew I needed to change something.

Unfortunately none of it worked. He didn’t like the photos. He said I looked silly. He didn’t like the jockstraps or any of the toys I bought. He said he wasn’t comfortable bringing someone else into the relationship. And he actually resented me for having my own space. On the days I went to the office, he wouldn’t even talk to me.

Last week when I got home from the office he seemed upset. I asked if something was wrong and he said no. Later I checked the logs on our smart door and saw that he had been gone for two hours that morning. He had even woken me up early so I wouldn't be late for work. Turns out he really wanted me out of the house.

I ended up falling back into one of my worst habits and checked his computer while he was in the shower. I saw an email from Uber showing that he had gone to a happy ending massage. He would always use Uber instead of the car whenever he didn't want to be tracked. I also saw more screenshots of him sexting with other men and more subscriptions to Grindr and other hookup apps. All of this happened after our first fight at the start of the year.

I finally confronted him and told him I knew what he’d been doing. I said we were basically back to square one. It seems that his kink is all about the transgression, about crossing the line and getting away with it. Every time I catch him doing something, he just finds a new app, a new outlet. Some people are willing to let that slide and live with that, but I don't. It's not what I want.

We’re now going through a separation, and most likely a divorce. It's been a very sad period for me, but when I finally realized I can't do anything to fix the relationship, it gave me a sense of peace.
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