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Frankly today's porn is so degrading to all involved that it's surprising that anyone could get turned on by it. They use to protest in the 70's that porn was degrading to women. Well in comparison to today's porn, 70's porn was Snow White. Actresses do things in these films that I can't imagine ANY women could even think of being turned on by let alone doing. And I can't help but wonder what man thought it up. One need only review porn titles to get an idea.

Porn has become an almost Olympic event between the actors. They don't look at each other, they show very little if any emotion, they simply compete to see who can extract the most pleasure from each other. They treat each other as if they were simple appliances.

I only watch the old porn anymore. The new porn is simply too disturbing
 

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Sares.. it sounds like you claim to be very familiar with Rocco's films. What films have you seen and or what scenes in general?

Or are you claiming that woman don't like sex in any porn scene whatsoever?

I know a girl who isn't into porn at all.. and just saw Rocco in scenes while hanging around us guys, and she had a crush on Rocco.. she was infatuated with him. She wasn't into porn at all or rough sex. She was a very very reserved girl.

You can call me naive all you want.. but I would bet you just really have no clue what you are talking about. Either that or you are embarassed that you were shown to be wrong on the matter. Either way.. I think you need to tone it down a litte.
 

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you have to show me I'm wrong before I can have a chance to be embarrassed about being wrong.

as for what I've seen, I've seen 'greatest hits' clipshows from stileproject.com, covering his most outre and crazy stuff. yes, I'm aware he has more in his portfolio than his extremely degrading push-the-envelope stuff, but he is advertised on the basis of his extreme stuff -- the toilet swirly being an iconic image. that's his selling point, being crazy over the edge, for good or for ill.

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Or are you claiming that woman don't like sex in any porn scene whatsoever?

oh for god's sakes. in this very thread I've talked about porn I like, so obviously I don't think women dislike all porn. catch up.

I am saying female porn consumers, on the whole, would not be into the extreme humiliation/physical danger/degradation stuff that Rocco made his name on.

so, if you haven't understood yet, here's the long and short of it: if Rocco were only an alpha-male hard fucker extraordinaire, I would not only like him myself, I'd recommend him to my friends. as it is, he is associated with some stuff that a lot of people, and women in particular, find horrifying.
 

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more than you ever wanted to know about Rocco

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocco_Siffredi


His specialty is rough to really rough sex. Lots of women like rough sex. Fewer enjoy the vivid visual depiction of it. Hence his audience is mostly male even though he has plenty of female fans.

Frankly I find Rocco to be a more genuine and entertaining performer than the freaks, wierdo dudes and out of shape losers in much North American porn.
 

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I think the problem is that "rough sex" can be interpreted approximately 100 million zillion ways. everyone has a different line between "rough sex" and "abuse."

personally, I get grabbed, smacked, and hurled around, but it's never degrading, and it's never my face. and spitting in someone's mouth or on their face? sorry, that's not rough sex and has nothing to do with rough sex. neither is f'n swirlies.

I can understand liking the less extreme stuff Rocco does if you can think of it in isolation. but some people, me included, see bad behaviour in one place and it just poisons everything else. bad boyfriends are bad boyfriends.
 

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sares said:
...so, if you haven't understood yet, here's the long and short of it: if Rocco were only an alpha-male hard fucker extraordinaire, I would not only like him myself, I'd recommend him to my friends. as it is, he is associated with some stuff that a lot of people, and women in particular, find horrifying.
The women he stars with could specify how far they would let Rocco go, in most of his scenes, he is exactly the description you used: an alpha-male hard fucker extraordinaire.
If you have only dowloaded films of him, you would have only seen his most outstanding and shocking scenes which were mainly from his more recent films, he has starred in thousands of movies but most are just ordinary porn and not very interesting to a site like stilemedia.
 

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In another thread some ladies mentioned having hands-free orgasms from just reading erotica!

I see more evidence that women are turned on more by their imagination than by watching sexual acts in detail which is what us guys prefer.

When you masturbate whilst watching porn, is there a point where you close your eyes and let your imagination take over to bring on an orgasm?

In my case, the thing that usually makes me come is the sight and sound of the woman's intense reactions to a big cock or two!
 

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How does this one work for you ladies?

What with all of the talk about rough sex being good but abuse no, some sex being boring, etc. I was wondering where you would put this on the scale.


ps - it intensifies as it goes along

pps - it's kinda long at approx 23 min
 

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Shelby said:
How does this one work for you ladies?

What with all of the talk about rough sex being good but abuse no, some sex being boring, etc. I was wondering where you would put this on the scale.


ps - it intensifies as it goes along

pps - it's kinda long at approx 23 min


I enjoyed most of it (far too much time on my hands) but I sure hope Nacho doesn't accidentally choke anyone to death. That was the aspect of this video that really pushed my boundaries. The margin of safety was appeared a little too narrow for my comfort. It's easier for something irreversible and tragic to happen than people think with pressure on the front of the neck. Damage can acumulate and not be obvious. Please just grip the back of the neck !

Before I get jumped on as an extreme sick puppy though, I should remind "sares" et all that dangerous troubled men who might as likely choke you/hurt you/kill you as make love to you are staple of women's romantic fiction more than mens. I have to hum a little and hold my toungue most of the time when I hear women talk about "danger" being a turnoff in porn or elsewhere.

Cheers !
 

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stretcher74 said:
more than you ever wanted to know about Rocco

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocco_Siffredi


His specialty is rough to really rough sex. Lots of women like rough sex. Fewer enjoy the vivid visual depiction of it. Hence his audience is mostly male even though he has plenty of female fans.

Frankly I find Rocco to be a more genuine and entertaining performer than the freaks, wierdo dudes and out of shape losers in much North American porn.

For sure after reading the link, Rocco's porn is not appeling to me...the ass fetiches and huge holes exposes is very disgusting to me as fits and submissive woman that can take all his and others craps.

I like to play roles and if i got hooked in this kind of stuff i would be very agressive in a way that i like to do things to him the same way he does to me..if you fantasy about stick a banana in my ass i want try the same to him..if he want inflict pain i want to do the same, trully. And than i would want to play dominatrix full blow and would be nasty...

Well, there is a place inside me that can be all of that but knowing me as i know i would not respect my partner...yes, there is something inside me that if get to 'brake' a man like that would not want to have him around anymore.

:sour: :yuck: :puke:

opss..sorry...:redface:

Yes, I'm a little ass woman..when man say they are ass men i say me too !!! But just with small little things..
 

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the link won't download for me, but if it's a guy choking a woman, no, I don't consider that rough sex. I consider that erotic asphyxiation, which is a subset kink I am not into.

the context matters as well. if it looks like she's being raped, it's more disturbing than if it's obviously something they have arranged to experience together.

stretcher74 said:
Before I get jumped on as an extreme sick puppy though, I should remind "sares" et all that dangerous troubled men who might as likely choke you/hurt you/kill you as make love to you are staple of women's romantic fiction more than mens. I have to hum a little and hold my toungue most of the time when I hear women talk about "danger" being a turnoff in porn or elsewhere.
there's danger and there's danger. I like that Mr.Sares is bigger than me, can move me around, has power over me. but I do not and never have had any interest in him or any other man hurting me or making me feel endangered.

however I definitely see your point. there is an unfortunate, and cyclical, link between masculinity and hostility.
 

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sares said:
the link won't download for me, but if it's a guy choking a woman, no, I don't consider that rough sex. I consider that erotic asphyxiation, which is a subset kink I am not into.

the context matters as well. if it looks like she's being raped, it's more disturbing than if it's obviously something they have arranged to experience together.


there's danger and there's danger. I like that Mr.Sares is bigger than me, can move me around, has power over me. but I do not and never have had any interest in him or any other man hurting me or making me feel endangered.

however I definitely see your point. there is an unfortunate, and cyclical, link between masculinity and hostility.
I don't think he's choking her so much as just holding on.

The site owner probably didn't appreciate my hotlink so he broke it. If you want to see it this link should take you to the site, then scroll down to Video Freakshow and choose "Best Tits Ever, Seriously!"

You may have to wade through a couple of ads.
 

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thanks Shelby, downloading now, then will watch when baby has a nap.
 

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Shelby, I thought that was really good actually (thank you for the link, honestly. I am keeping it in my collection. she is beautiful, he has a great cock, and she even got an orgasm before they started fucking -- plus initial penetration!! -- fantastic).

even the pressure on the neck seemed controlling and hot rather than abusive. asphyxiation is not my cup of tea but if I cared for someone a lot who wanted to try it, I would allow that much pressure.
 

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Gisella said:
Any pictures of the Rocco guy, dont know who is he...

Oh, you can find Rocco all over the net. Also, if you want to check out some of his work for American companies, I suggest Solid Rocco and Warning I Brake for Rocco. Really good stuff, and an excellent scene with Celeste, wherein you can hear him talking to her in Italian: "Che troia." I'd love to be Rocco's whore. :tongue: There was also a series of videos done with American starlets like Jenna Jameson. Jenna Loves Rocco, etc.
 

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Charlie14 said:
Actuallly if you ask the women that have worked with Rocco they will usually tell you he is their favorite fuck.

True! Back in the 90's, when Rocco was super hot and winning AVN awards, chicks were begging to be his next "victim."

But I also think that for the rougher stuff he is dealing with women that know what they are geting into and are into it.

Thank you! This is PORN!!!! And you don't walk into a Rocco production thinking that you're going to have some nice gentle sex. These women are being PAID.

As for all of this assumed disrespectful spitting that is going on...most of the time, Rocco is just using spit as lube. MANY male porn stars followed suit and this is now regular practice in porn. (Rocco did a lot of that, trailblazing...) When you're getting into sex with a dude who is obviously dominant and going to take control of you....if he spits in your face, he spits in your face. If you're not into that on a personal basis, fine. But again...THIS IS PORN AND THE WOMEN ARE BEING PAID. The only difference with Rocco is, he does it IN FRONT OF the camera, whereas in America, pig men do it BEHIND the scenes.

If you doubt this, go to Christie Lee's Myspace page and read her blogs. She talks of a dude named Jenner (never heard of him) who spat on her on set cos HE COULD NOT GET IT UP. Now that is never Rocco's problem, nor would he treat someone like that.
 

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Charlie14 said:
Actually.. one of the comments I am referring to is from an ex porn star. She made the comment while retired. Her name is Nikki Dial.

I LOVED NIKKI DIAL!!!! She was so adorable. The really cute ones always leave porn way too quickly. I saw one of her scenes with Rocco, it was in one of the compilations I mentioned in a previous post. Good scene!