GAY MEN... WHEN will you STOP supporting GAY4PAY guys!?

[TDJ6]

it's so easy to NOT pay for porn, so I think we should stop PAYING for Gay for pay guys that give us nothing...

i see so many threads on here talking about some straight dude who posts thirst traps on IG and than people wonder about their OF content. It's almost always nothing (teases in short videos) , but i see a new thread about a new white str8 dude like every day.

let's stop.
i personally only pay for OF if i'm certain there's gonna be some gay sex. or AT LEAST some effort put into the videos... because literally these guys take a short video of them getting out the shower and it's like... that does NOTHING for me.

 

[Sandymat]

As long as it feeds that persons fantasy ... it probably won’t change

 

[deleted18687881]

I already don't
I find the whole obsession with str8 men extremely cringe-worthy.

 

[Shirleyurjoking]

sheesh it's just porn. let people enjoy their kinks without going into politics/shaming. We're here to help each other out. If you don't like the gay baiters, wouldn't you rather have people get their rocks off for free?

I mean growing up I loved watching Brandon Cody but not once did i think he was gay or would do anything gay. It's the fantasy of a straight guy doing gay stuff taht turns a lot of us on. It lets us get a taste of the forbidden fruit we cannot have.

 

[Assjock76]

it's so easy to NOT pay for porn, so I think we should stop PAYING for Gay for pay guys that give us nothing...

i see so many threads on here talking about some straight dude who posts thirst traps on IG and than people wonder about their OF content. It's almost always nothing (teases in short videos) , but i see a new thread about a new white str8 dude like every day.

let's stop.
i personally only pay for OF if i'm certain there's gonna be some gay sex. or AT LEAST some effort put into the videos... because literally these guys take a short video of them getting out the shower and it's like... that does NOTHING for me.

Snooze. Let people like what they like

 

[deleted12665341]

This gate-keeping is so horribly hypocritical that it makes me sad for the gay community. Since when are we policing the sexual orientations of adult performers and adult models? What’s the cut off for being acceptably gay enough ? Why are we tolerating - let alone PERPETUATING- the shaming of their gay fans???
The LGBTQIA++ umbrella is a very large one. There is room.
And let people like things, ffs.

 

[Assjock76]

This gate-keeping is so horribly hypocritical that it makes me sad for the gay community. Since when are we policing the sexual orientations of adult performers and adult models? What’s the cut off for being acceptably gay enough ? Why are we tolerating - let alone PERPETUATING- the shaming of their gay fans???
The LGBTQIA++ umbrella is a very large one. There is room.
And let people like things, ffs.

Thank you! It’s infuriating that the primal post is so close minded.

 

[bleurfeliner]

I don't mind g4p at all, because some of these guys actually do a respectable job as actors, bringing passion to the table. Brandon Lewis, Marcus Mojo, Kurt Wild, Chris Rockway, Reese Rideout, Paddy OBrian, just to name a few that I think were good despite of identifying as straight.
Hate it when they are just baiting, and are otherwise homophobic and show contempt to queer lust. Those ones really don't deserve our money or attention.

 

[Mylovelife455]

I don't mind g4p at all, because some of these guys actually do a respectable job as actors, bringing passion to the table. Brandon Lewis, Marcus Mojo, Kurt Wild, Chris Rockway, Reese Rideout, Paddy OBrian, just to name a few that I think were good despite of identifying as straight.
Hate it when they are just baiting, and are otherwise homophobic and show contempt to queer lust. Those ones really don't deserve our money or attention.

Paddy is straight

 

[bigboaster]

Paddy is straight

Isn't that what they basically said?? also he hasn't actually said this in years just FYI.

 

[BLU_S]

Hate to break it to you, but all porn or adult content is gonna be 4pay in some way shape or form. If people are happy to do stuff and get paid, and others are happy to watch it, why does it matter? Sure, there's a question over the quality of content that some creators put out, but that's not really specific to 'gay 4 pay'.

 

[hunGreek]

I respect your opinion, but its just that your opinion/personal taste. your statement is as valid as: "trans porn doesnt anything for me, we should stop paying for it"

men are hot, men are sexy, some are gay some are str8, if they are willing to show their bodies for us, power to them, and enjoyment to us. If done correctly, i personally find the str8 man exploring his sexuality one step at a time, extremely erotic

In the same line, you can be a thirst trap and bait your audience whatever your sexuality is, There are tons of gay guys milking their audience with just showing bulges, or never cumming or just lazy lazy porn, or anything you can imagine that wouldnt cut it for th rest of us.

 

[Mount Phalic]

Why do you care? If you don't want to patronize gay4pay, then don't. This is a sex positive forum. We should be encouraging all performers and all patrons.

 

[tuxedoshark]

I agree with the OP. It's why trying to date a gay guy is challenging.

Too many of them are busy fantasizing and crushing over straight dudes that will NEVER, EVER give them the time of day. It's a problem with our community.

Dismissing the OP like that is frustrating. It's why hookup culture is still the dominant culture over just simply dating. Gay guys want that "chance" to turn that straight guy and it's gross. I've seen it before with my very own eyes with a guy I use to date and it's heartbreaking. We are too obsessed with these g4p OF models (esp the ones with wives and gf's for godsakes). They are all laughing their way to the bank while you sit there looking stupid with your load on your belly watching a straight guy jerk his dick or play with his hole for 20 bucks. It's definitely cringe as another poster pointed out.

 

[hunGreek]

I agree with the OP. It's why trying to date a gay guy is challenging.

Too many of them are busy fantasizing and crushing over straight dudes that will NEVER, EVER give them the time of day. It's a problem with our community.

Dismissing the OP like that is frustrating. It's why hookup culture is still the dominant culture over just simply dating. Gay guys want that "chance" to turn that straight guy and it's gross. I've seen it before with my very own eyes with a guy I use to date and it's heartbreaking. We are too obsessed with these g4p OF models (esp the ones with wives and gf's for godsakes). They are all laughing their way to the bank while you sit there looking stupid with your load on your belly watching a straight guy jerk his dick or play with his hole for 20 bucks. It's definitely cringe as another poster pointed out.

Lusting on str8s has nothing to do with gay4pay porn. its actually the other way around. the issue/need that generates the product for consumption.

Lusting on str8 is directly connected with various psychological issues including but not limited to :
Low self esteem, unwantedness, attraction to unobtainable goals, being emotionally unavailable thus only targeting causes that will never work out, defense mechanisms that protect you from "normal relationships", having an one sided crush while the world passes you by and you are safe within your fantasy with zero effort, fear of rejection from actual gay men that you can approach, heteronormative culture, a "grass is always greener on the other side" obsession, a dislike of "gay sex culture" and growing up in schools where all the cool guys are hyper masculine, and and watching movies where the hot hero is str8, and the gay character either dies from aids or is a flaming neurotic homosexual.

i do think lusting for str8 people is more of an older generation behaviour, i think people born after the 90s are significatnly less afflicted by this than people born in 70s/80s

 

[thomas200]

It’s porn. It’s about their bodies, why does it matter who they date outside of work?

 

[Nito Cogin]

I don't think they actually exist, it is just marketing.

A guy may let a guy suck him off in private but to put it on video is another thing entirely. Porn is just an advertisement for your hustling career these days. If a guy has sex with men on video in order to have sex with men off video, even if money is involved he is pretty gay.

If you go back to the 70s and look at all the porn men who did both and listen to some of the interviews on Rialto report straight for pay was more common. The gay men could use the women like a fleshlight and not cum too quickly, most had to jerk off to finish.

 

[ventroaq]

Lusting on str8s has nothing to do with gay4pay porn. its actually the other way around. the issue/need that generates the product for consumption.

Lusting on str8 is directly connected with various psychological issues including but not limited to :
Low self esteem, unwantedness, attraction to unobtainable goals, being emotionally unavailable thus only targeting causes that will never work out, defense mechanisms that protect you from "normal relationships", having an one sided crush while the world passes you by and you are safe within your fantasy with zero effort, fear of rejection from actual gay men that you can approach, heteronormative culture, a "grass is always greener on the other side" obsession, a dislike of "gay sex culture" and growing up in schools where all the cool guys are hyper masculine, and and watching movies where the hot hero is str8, and the gay character either dies from aids or is a flaming neurotic homosexual.

i do think lusting for str8 people is more of an older generation behaviour, i think people born after the 90s are significatnly less afflicted by this than people born in 70s/80s

"Lusting on str8 is directly connected with..." LOL. So absolutely ridiculous and self-righteous. Attraction is attraction, you don't have to assume that it's based on your psychological profile of someone. How very cold and sterile to think of sexual attraction as some sort of a mental issue. Hmm, never heard that one before.

 

[assbat]

I agree with the OP. It's why trying to date a gay guy is challenging.

Too many of them are busy fantasizing and crushing over straight dudes that will NEVER, EVER give them the time of day. It's a problem with our community.

Dismissing the OP like that is frustrating. It's why hookup culture is still the dominant culture over just simply dating. Gay guys want that "chance" to turn that straight guy and it's gross. I've seen it before with my very own eyes with a guy I use to date and it's heartbreaking. We are too obsessed with these g4p OF models (esp the ones with wives and gf's for godsakes). They are all laughing their way to the bank while you sit there looking stupid with your load on your belly watching a straight guy jerk his dick or play with his hole for 20 bucks. It's definitely cringe as another poster pointed out.

I'd like to flip the script here. In my personal experience, dating gay guys is difficult due to the sheer amount of drama and expectation to conform. I've made out with guys only to later be denied a date because I'm "too straight-acting". It stings to be told that by someone you like. But I have to accept people have their own tastes, just as I have mine.

And I've hooked up with a number of otherwise-straight guys who were looking for an experience or just horny and wanting to have some NSA fun (mostly during HS and college). I've never lusted after someone's sexuality, but I do find masculinity and confidence attractive. I can't speak for everyone, though for me it isn't about "turning" someone so much as hooking up with someone who acts in a way that's compatible with my attraction. But I don't see such encounters as more than a roll in the hay.

Clearly, if there wasn't a market for it, G4P wouldn't exist. Some people find it attractive, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, wasting your life lusting after something you can't have, or if you could, there's no chance of it developing into an actual relationship - that's pathological. Seems a better idea to seek out a gay/bi/pan dude who fits your interests.

By your choice of language, it sounds like you're pretty invested in hating on G4P, so I'm pretty sure I won't change your mind by responding to a post made over a year ago. I just wanted to point out that your interpretation of this phenomena doesn't match everyone's experience (though I'm sure you're spot on for some people). Also, I'm sorry your ex prioritized a fetish over your relationship. That sucks.

 

[hunGreek]

"Lusting on str8 is directly connected with..." LOL. So absolutely ridiculous and self-righteous. Attraction is attraction, you don't have to assume that it's based on your psychological profile of someone. How very cold and sterile to think of sexual attraction as some sort of a mental issue. Hmm, never heard that one before.

Besides your rudeness, im assuming you have a problem with reading comprehension so im going to simplify it more. The "im only attracted to str8s" or " im mostly attracted to str8s" is not about "attraction is attraction" as there is no inherent physiological difference between men based on their sexual preference.

thus we are not talking about being attracted to masculinity for example which is completely off subject, but being attracted to the un-suitable or un-attainable. desire very closely related to self esteem issues and various negative factors when growing up, factors that hinder the ability of people to form healthy relationships as adults.
I dont really care if its the first time you hear about it, hearing new infomation doesnt make it wrong. you can open and read various psychology books and online articles in the matter. it's adjacent to "why am i always attracted to jerks" or "why am i only attracted to married men" both cases being well documented in psychology reports.