Manly Secrets

[Kassokilleri2ff]

Dave chappelle once said

"Suck his dick, play with his balls a little bit, make him a sandwich and dont talk to damn much!"

I think these statements are key.

bahahaha! lolz.

 

[invisibleman]

the BF made the off-hand (but what I thought to be a rather profound) remark,

"Well you know - no one knows what a man wants like another man."

Thank Yoooou, Captain Obvious! :wink:

Now, before I go off the deep-end pondering the possible ramifications of his remark and wondering whether I'm going to come home some day to find him in bed with a man (I just might - which would be hot - but only if I got some advance warning) .. :tongue:

Would you men please enlighten me and the rest of the straight female audience here as to what it is that you want that we don't know about? Is there something that you're not telling us?
What do we do that is "good" but could be "GREAT"?
Is there something that women do that you DON'T like but are afraid to say anything?
This is the time to let it ALL HANG OUT GUYS - Let us know just exactly what the hell his statement means! (and feel free to expound)

ALL YOU GAY MEN - HELP SOME SISTERS OUT! :biggrin1: (Please?)

I hope I don't come off as insecure, but if there is some insider info I can dig up ... I want it! :wink: I figured this would be the best place to dig... hope I strike gold!

Thanks a bunch ~Amie

Dearest Amie--
I want to let you in on the scope of the "manly secrets". Jesus said it best, "Ask and you will receive." Then again, you have to ask a lot of questions. And for every man is different yet if you pay attention --observe, ask questions. Understand your man. Bad and good. You have to know more about yourself as well. He has the right to observe and ask questions of you, too. Accept that guy for who he is. Every person under the sun knows that there is a gap between the way things are and the way they are supposed to be. The world is NOT a cut-and-dry place. It isn't. The world is sophisticated. Things do change.
Men and women are spiritual beings with human life experience. There is no you like you. There is no he like he.

GENERAL OBSERVATIONS
1. You don't own the person you love.
2. You can love someone but can they LOVE you in return.
3. Once the sex is gone, your relationship suffers.
4. Allow each other to be yourselves--good and bad. Nobody is perfect.
5. Leave friends as friends. Let lovers be lovers. If you make a friend your lover, one day that lover CAN end up doing something that could ruin a friendship. Could you handle that?
6. People DO change. Relationships end.
7. Everybody has issues of the past. Deal with each other.
8. Communicate. Communicate. Communicate. Good and bad. No matter what. Ask questions. Express your concerns.
9. Take all the time you need.
10. Let your major expectations be known. If a person can't be what you are expecting, then you are better off being disappointed. That doesn't discount him being a lover though. If it IS important to you and he can't be that--you can be with someone else or you can deal with him.
11. Learn to laugh with your love. Watch some comedies. Observe the comical sides in each other's lives.
12. Have a plan when you've gone too far. If you HAVE pissed off your man or he has pissed you off...you have to settle it properly. If it is an issue, you have to nip it in the bud right then and there, do it proper.
13. Have a plan of breaking up. What would be the proper way of doing so? If you break up in a way that is messed up--you will have lost that person bigtime. No friends. No lovers. Enemies all the way. This is why you HAVE to handle break ups properly.
14. Family planning. Family planning. Family planning.
15. Marriage is a whole other can of worms. Take your time with THAT consideration. Ask a whole lot of questions of each other.
16. We are all imperfect. Adults are grown up children.
17. Make sure your man is into you not because he is closeted gay or a bisexual man and his family is pressuring him to marry you because they don't want him to be gay. And don't be falling for a guy who can't reciprocate emotionally. It is a waste your time and emotions.​

 

[50%more]

Hello all :smile: I had an interesting convo with the BF tonight which made me stop and think ...

Now, I've long prided myself on being somewhat of a Cock-Conoisseur, a Masturbation Maven if you will - skilled in sucking, stroking and more than proficient at pleasuring the penis ... BUT: As we were discussing male-on-male sexual activity tonight, specifically manual and oral stimulation, the BF made the off-hand (but what I thought to be a rather profound) remark,

"Well you know - no one knows what a man wants like another man."

Thank Yoooou, Captain Obvious! :wink:

Now, before I go off the deep-end pondering the possible ramifications of his remark and wondering whether I'm going to come home some day to find him in bed with a man (I just might - which would be hot - but only if I got some advance warning) .. :tongue:

Would you men please enlighten me and the rest of the straight female audience here as to what it is that you want that we don't know about? Is there something that you're not telling us?
What do we do that is "good" but could be "GREAT"?
Is there something that women do that you DON'T like but are afraid to say anything?
This is the time to let it ALL HANG OUT GUYS - Let us know just exactly what the hell his statement means! (and feel free to expound)

ALL YOU GAY MEN - HELP SOME SISTERS OUT! :biggrin1: (Please?)

I hope I don't come off as insecure, but if there is some insider info I can dig up ... I want it! :wink: I figured this would be the best place to dig... hope I strike gold!

Thanks a bunch ~Amie

Personally I get off on the contrast of femininity touching masculinity or vice verse. A man's hand, mouth or any other body part does not do it for me. And I have tried. To me it is no more fun than masturbation. So why use another guys hand, when I have my own.

 

[WellHung83]

In general terms it does make sense as a man obviously has the same equipment and so, on a purely general assumptiom mind, a guy does know how to make another guy get worked up and sated because he knows the general way in which to make it work. Sort of like two guys sharing handjobs while watching porn or, if one is bi or at least curious about guy on guy love, a quick blow job and perhaps even a suck on the neck.
I think your boyfriend just may have meant it as an offhanded comment, so perhaps just leave it at that for the moment and, if it comes up again, maybe ask if he wanted to take it a little further and perhaps get another willing bloke to help him out with your consent. Though I think maybe it is just a slip of the tongue and not meant to mean anything solid. Much like if you'd ask a straight bloke what he thinks of a guy and says something complete left of field as he thinks he's 'cute', but he doesn' really mean it.

 

[Tenderheart]

Hello all :smile: I had an interesting convo with the BF tonight which made me stop and think ...

Now, I've long prided myself on being somewhat of a Cock-Conoisseur, a Masturbation Maven if you will - skilled in sucking, stroking and more than proficient at pleasuring the penis ... BUT: As we were discussing male-on-male sexual activity tonight, specifically manual and oral stimulation, the BF made the off-hand (but what I thought to be a rather profound) remark,

"Well you know - no one knows what a man wants like another man."

Thank Yoooou, Captain Obvious! :wink:

Now, before I go off the deep-end pondering the possible ramifications of his remark and wondering whether I'm going to come home some day to find him in bed with a man (I just might - which would be hot - but only if I got some advance warning) .. :tongue:

Would you men please enlighten me and the rest of the straight female audience here as to what it is that you want that we don't know about? Is there something that you're not telling us?
What do we do that is "good" but could be "GREAT"?
Is there something that women do that you DON'T like but are afraid to say anything?
This is the time to let it ALL HANG OUT GUYS - Let us know just exactly what the hell his statement means! (and feel free to expound)

ALL YOU GAY MEN - HELP SOME SISTERS OUT! :biggrin1: (Please?)

I hope I don't come off as insecure, but if there is some insider info I can dig up ... I want it! :wink: I figured this would be the best place to dig... hope I strike gold!

Thanks a bunch ~Amie

I'll try to offer what info I can, Amie. Definitely deep throat the cock no matter how big... and keep on doing it as long as he likes it. Now speaking for myself, I don't shoot cum juice when I cum, since I had surgery, so do not have to worry about swallowing. Suck until he signals, then stoke it til he cums. Simply love his cock and love sucking it like it belongs to you. It'll pay dividends all around.
~Tendermeat...oops, I mean heart

 

[amiegrrl]

Aright aright aright ... I think maybe I came off in my initial post as a little more paranoid that what I really am. This thread was *totally* for pointers. Men know what men want - it's pretty simple. My BF's comment just raised a few questions in my mind that I thought this group could best answer. :smile: I'm *not* worried that he'll leave me for a man (though I don't think at some point down the road he would be altogether against receiving oral sex from a man... or possibly giving, but his gag reflex is CRAZY) nor do I think he is secretly gay. Maybe bi-curious, but I can handle that :wink:

So thank you so much to all the guys here that have given me answers ... examples that turn them on that I can try on the BF ... things that women commonly do wrong or that could be improved ... I've learned a great deal from this thread.:biggrin1: I think I'll be an (even) better lover for it. I'm not trying to CHANGE him. I'm not trying to find some magical formula for the Ultimate Cum. I just want to be better than I already am and bring freshness to our love life.

To those who have had bad luck in the hand/blow-job department, I am truly sorry. These women obviously don't know or don't care, and in the latter case are good for very little in the way of carnal pleasure imho. Please don't assume that a woman 'should' know her way around your cock any more than you would want a woman to assume you 'should' know your way around her pussy. Everyone is different, as we hear multiple times daily in almost every thread posted on this site. Have patience, and if she's still a dud and you don't care enough to keep at it - just dump the unfortunate girl. You'll both find people you care enough about to teach/learn from. Just please stop telling us how shitty they were at sucking your dick. We know. This thread is for solutions to that problem. :wink:

So ... any more advice, guys? :flirt: Dish that dirt!!

Also: I have a rather small mouth. Seriously, the dentist has to use children's size spacers, etc. when he's working on my teeth. My BF has a very nice, thick cock ... Any advice on how I could best suck him off without dragging teeth?

 

[auncut10in]

While I would agree that a lot of women aren't good at it and don't enjoy doing it, I don't think generalizing about it is fair. How many women have sucked your cock anyway, you being 100% gay and all?

Just to answer your question, I was married for some time. But that is another story in another thread. Though I also want to say you are right, I haven't been with many women. And I have to say there may be women that know how to suck dick just as good as a guy. But as is stated throughout this thread, there are plenty of straight guys that say gay guys have given them the best blowjob of their life. I have yet to hear a gay guy ever say a woman has given him the best blowjob of his life. I just want to make clear I have no ax to grind against women.
It is just kind of the way things are. And I applaud any woman that wants to do a better job at it. So lets give them some suggestions.

There is this friend of mine that has a BF. It is pretty much monogamous. But if he tells his bf that he wants to have sex with another guy then they work it out. So he calls me up and wants me to come over and help train him on how to suck bigger dicks. Overcome that gag reflex. His BF is much smaller than me, but he still can't quite handle it. Well even in the first training session we had his BF noticed the difference right away. So maybe it is just finding some guy with a big dick that is willing to train you how to handle it. A lot of this is just communication.

 

[amiegrrl]

I applaud any woman that wants to do a better job at it. So lets give them some suggestions.

There is this friend of mine that has a BF. It is pretty much monogamous. But if he tells his bf that he wants to have sex with another guy then they work it out. So he calls me up and wants me to come over and help train him on how to suck bigger dicks. Overcome that gag reflex. His BF is much smaller than me, but he still can't quite handle it. Well even in the first training session we had his BF noticed the difference right away. So maybe it is just finding some guy with a big dick that is willing to train you how to handle it. A lot of this is just communication.

I kept reading... waiting for the suggestions.... but there were none!

I have a guy with a big dick, and (unfortunately, sigh :wink: ) there will be no 'finding a guy with a big dick that is willing to train' me. Soooo ... how did you train your friend? What did you tell him? Not of course word for word, but what was the general context of this 'lesson'? What difference did his BF notice?

I'm counting on all you hot, horny, well-hung men to be the ones willing to train us poor, under-informed females! :tongue:

 

[davidjh7]

I gave you some fairly explicit suggestions...:tongue: TALK to him as you are doing it---you need feedback as much as possible. Again, just like on you, a light teasing touch, especially in the beginning, will get him going. Work up to more pressure as he gets hotter. Do something surprising, vary the rythym, do something like just toy with the head, then suddenly plunge down. Rub his perineum, moving between just under his balls, to just above his hole. THe base of the cck is buried down there, and doesn;t usualy get stimulated, so it will be a nice treat, especially if he doesn;t do it to himself. DOn;t use too hard of pressure, or it will hurt. But you SOME pressure, so he can feel the stimulation thorugh the skin to the root of his cock. Squeeze the blood to the head, to make it really swollen, and then as lightly as you can, run the tip of your tongue all over JUST the head, then flick it quickly across the spot where the rim splits, on the udnerside. I promise you, if he has any feelings in his cock at all, THAT little trick will definately get his attention.:biggrin1: I hope this gives you a few things new to try. Let me know how he likes it.:wink:

 

[amiegrrl]

THAT'S what I'm talking about... Thank you! *going to jump his poor, tired bones RIGHT NOW*

I gave you some fairly explicit suggestions...:tongue: TALK to him as you are doing it---you need feedback as much as possible. Again, just like on you, a light teasing touch, especially in the beginning, will get him going. Work up to more pressure as he gets hotter. Do something surprising, vary the rythym, do something like just toy with the head, then suddenly plunge down. Rub his perineum, moving between just under his balls, to just above his hole. THe base of the cck is buried down there, and doesn;t usualy get stimulated, so it will be a nice treat, especially if he doesn;t do it to himself. DOn;t use too hard of pressure, or it will hurt. But you SOME pressure, so he can feel the stimulation thorugh the skin to the root of his cock. Squeeze the blood to the head, to make it really swollen, and then as lightly as you can, run the tip of your tongue all over JUST the head, then flick it quickly across the spot where the rim splits, on the udnerside. I promise you, if he has any feelings in his cock at all, THAT little trick will definately get his attention.:biggrin1: I hope this gives you a few things new to try. Let me know how he likes it.:wink:

 

[burns1de]

THAT'S what I'm talking about... Thank you! *going to jump his poor, tired bones RIGHT NOW*

So... did the advice work? :smile:

 

[auncut10in]

I kept reading... waiting for the suggestions.... but there were none!

I have a guy with a big dick, and (unfortunately, sigh :wink: ) there will be no 'finding a guy with a big dick that is willing to train' me. Soooo ... how did you train your friend? What did you tell him? Not of course word for word, but what was the general context of this 'lesson'? What difference did his BF notice?

I'm counting on all you hot, horny, well-hung men to be the ones willing to train us poor, under-informed females! :tongue:

Well this guy also had a difficult time with his gag reflex. I just worked with him slowly and got him used to taking just a little more of my dick at a time. I would push my dick down his throat watching very closely where the gag reflex kicked it. Constantly telling him to relax and just feel the dick. He started to relax and started to get used to my cock. When he had sex with his bf the next time, it was way easier for him to take his dick because it was so much smaller than mine. So I guess the tip is to work with something bigger than your bf's dick and get used to that. Or when you are sucking your bf off, take your time, relax and begin to trust yourself and him. I loved watching him try so hard and wanting to take just a little more each time. I am sure your bf will too. Tell him what you are trying to learn and he will be into it.

 

[dude77007]

I wouldn't do anything with a guy but I will say that women are shit at giving blowjobs and handjobs. I try and show them but they're half hearted about it and don't grip tight enough or some other shit. I've always told them to just stop trying to blow me. They try and bite off...or suck off more than they can chew...

My main thing is just penetrative sex, vaginal. No one will let me raid their ass....yet.

There are three things women just don't have the timing for:

1. Good hand job,

2. Good head,

3. Driving standard shift.

 

[amiegrrl]

SOME women. But then, I could start a whole NEW thread about the things men don't do well in the oral sex department... so let's not make negative, vague generalizations please and thanks :smile:

There are three things women just don't have the timing for:

1. Good hand job,

2. Good head,

3. Driving standard shift.

 

[Love-it]

I enjoy the female form, soft smooth skin and tender touches and caresses in contrast to my maleness.

Showing your enjoyment and love of the male organ, deep throating and swallowing if you can, letting your hands roam over his body, pulling him into your mouth and moving. Jump his penis when he least expects it and tell him how much you love having sex with him.

 

[Athleticman60516]

Ok here is the deal from my perspective. I agree when it comes to masturbating, just watch how the guy jerks himself off. Watching him will tell you a lot about how he likes it the best. All guys are different. And what made one guy really go over the edge may not do anything for the next guy.

When it comes to sucking women are absolutely clueless. Most women suck a dick like a lollypop. They figure if they are giving a guy head, he will love anything they have to offer. Very few women suck dick solely for the woman’s own pleasure. Women are usually sucking a guy off for the guy’s pleasure. And this is where no one can make a man feel like another man. First gay guys that are into blowjobs actually love sucking dick. They want it so bad that they never want it to end. They don't want it to escalate into something more. And they really don’t care whether it is recuperated or not. So the pleasure for them is all about oral sex. And because they just want it more, gay guys can deep throat better than any woman ever thought about. It is a rare woman that can deep throat a 10” dick. Gay guys that are into sucking can not only take a 10" dick all the way down their throat, but they can hold it there and swallow, contracting their throat muscles along the entire shaft of the dick. I love it when I find a guy that loves sucking dick. It is amazing to feel my dick so far down their throat. And it is amazing that they want it to stay all the way down their throat until they just have to breathe. I also have to say some gay guys suck like women. They are not really into it and you can tell. Does this make any sense to you? And no offense to you Big Del, but you probably have no idea the difference her boyfriend is talking about if you have never had a gay guy suck you off.

I couldn't have said it better myself. So I won't.

 

[Tenderheart]

when it comes to sucking n wanking women generally suck.

ahem, my g/f has the longest, softest hands and her handjob drives me crazy. It feels a lot better than my hand. She can get a cum out of me when I don't feel like it

 

[D_Rolly O verBeethoven]

I've got the answer for you, and it's not about technique at all. I've been with a lot of women, and just a couple had the difference to make a lasting and life long impression. Sure, they played with the balls and sucked it down deep. But the key was simply that they loved and were fascinated by my cock. By my balls. By the way I felt when they were enagaged with my dick. That is the advice I have, from the heart: you must be genuine in your interest "down there." And if you're not -- fake it. Convince me that there is nothing better than having my dick in your mouth; that you've had my dick on your mind all day; that you love the taste, smell, texture, and site of my cum, and are craving it NOW; and that my swinging balls slapping on your ass as we fuck is the sweetest sound in all the world. Anything less than this is falling short, and the women in the world that have figured this truth out stand alone.

 

[auncut10in]

I've got the answer for you, and it's not about technique at all. I've been with a lot of women, and just a couple had the difference to make a lasting and life long impression. Sure, they played with the balls and sucked it down deep. But the key was simply that they loved and were fascinated by my cock. By my balls. By the way I felt when they were enagaged with my dick. That is the advice I have, from the heart: you must be genuine in your interest "down there." And if you're not -- fake it. Convince me that there is nothing better than having my dick in your mouth; that you've had my dick on your mind all day; that you love the taste, smell, texture, and site of my cum, and are craving it NOW; and that my swinging balls slapping on your ass as we fuck is the sweetest sound in all the world. Anything less than this is falling short, and the women in the world that have figured this truth out stand alone.

That is exactly what I was trying to say in my first post about this. The same goes with gay guys. Some guys are just so into sucking a big dick that they don't want it to end. that is totally different than someone that is giving you a blow job because they think you want it or it will make you feel good. There are a lot of guys that are that into it. Not sure how many women feel that way about sucking dick. I certainly have never met on. But I have to say I havent have much experience with women.

 

[EFH33]

What?? Why?? I hear frustration and bitterness in some replies to this thread and I wonder.... What the hell are you guys doing with women that refuse to give you what you want? That's the WHOLE reason I started this thread, because I want to know what the hell he meant by "Men know what men want." It's the same for women, but we talked about it and now he KNOWS what I like about receiving oral from a woman... I don't just throw up my hands and say, "Oh well. You suck. That's life." Sex is too important to me to be so complacent. You guys need to TELL us what you want and then SHOW us. We aren't mind-readers either.

So all you bitter, pissed off dudes - What the hell do you want?? :smile:

I think most of the guys here have hit it on the head (pun intended). It's the same thing with anything. If you're interested in it you're going to better at it. So the first thing is really WANT to be there, sucking my cock. Don't rush through it. Take your time. If your man is really into it he'll tell you what he likes and doesn't like.

You have to understand something too. There is such a stigma out there that women don't like doing it that most guys are floored when a woman DOES want to do it. Most men feel if they say anything while we're getting blown that the woman will stop because she thinks we're picking on her.