D_Gunther Snotpole
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Hmmm, don't recognize the quote, but how many mega-hung 19-year-old's come up with things like that?
Hmmm. The two Franz's.
Interesting guy, HG.
Must watch him.
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Hmmm, don't recognize the quote, but how many mega-hung 19-year-old's come up with things like that?
Hmmm. The two Franz's.
Interesting guy, HG.
Must watch him.
D_Gunther Snotpole
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I don't think you're seeing HG's opinions.
Remember, he preferred Elvis as an artist, while acknowledging that Mariah had the more virtuosic voice.
But she also destroyed "Without You" made a mockery of it, no less.
D_Gunther Snotpole
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But she also destroyed "Without You" made a mockery of it, no less.
The only one I've ever liked is Nilsson's original version.
(Funny how much this YouTube version, obviously done near the end of his life, sounds so much like the original release on LP. Makes me wonder if he's just lip synching.)
Come to think of it, that's another voice that's far from virtuosic but just great for pop singing.
Same here (or should that be hear).
Badfinger wrote it (actually them - as in the song(s) - apparently). Harry came out of rehab and his career was shot. He knew the Badfinger guys and asked if they had any songs he might use. They had a few lying around that weren't gonna make their next album and told him to help himself. He found a song with a good melody but a crap chorus and another with a great chorus but a crap melody. Stitched them together and voila - may be an urban myth, though - but if you listen to the song, especially when the chorus goes back into the melody, you can almost hear the join).
Certain songs should be left alone.
What was Madonna thinking when she covered American Pie?????
Well with your opinions about Whitney and Celine, I wouldn't expect you to know Schubert. No sherberts though, I only like ice cream. Hence the name.
And I would LOVE to hear what you consider talent, if Whitney is shouting and undulating and Celine is a sexy French phlegm.
BINGO. I've always thought she had super super clear vocals.
LOL. Not all of us football boys with big dicks are dumb jocks.:tongue:
A FEW of us read. And had moms that wanted us to be musicians....lol.
I thinks he deserves what she's gotten.
I'd like to see singers who are more talented than her.
Yea she's only above average now. But that's from years of singing songs that are so difficult most singers could never do them. At her peak she was one of the top ten female vocalists in the music industry bar none I think.
And she's been willing to sell out artistry for commercialism, and so she is longstanding.
She deserves what she got. She's an excellent singer, at one point she was a powerhouse vocalist, she makes bubblegum pop that everyone can like, and she does what it takes to stay around.
I think she deserved it.
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Elvis is my man! He's the best crooner ever... and that coolest.
I cant' even remember that last time that I heard a song from Thriller on the radio. Sometimes the hype far exceeds the quality. Mariah's been riding a wave, like Britney and many other 'hot' girls.
She wasn't that bad in the early 90's. I remember playing Some Day (unplugged) alot when I was a kid. It was the only song that I liked of her's. YouTube - Mariah Carey - Someday
So Mariah can scream in more octaves. I'd rather hear Elvis' smooth, pitch-perfect, soulful voice any day.
Do you think that Mariah's Honey will get covered as often as Elvis' Suspicious Minds?
I love this video because it reminds me of his Jailhouse Rock number: YouTube - Elvis vs JXL - A little less conversation
Elvis, pitch perfect? I've heard him waver, warble, and wane all around the pitch sometimes.
In my opinion his voice was dry, limited, small-ranged, and affected. His voice always sounded like an act to me. But he has his moments.
Honey won't get covered as much as Suspicious Minds...but Hero, Vision of Love, and Dreamlover have.
But subjectivity and objectivity are different. As you said, "I'd rather hear Elvis"...expressing that it's a personal taste.
Thanks! This alone shows more emotional connection from Elvis than I ever saw or heard from that Carey creature. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge Elvis fan; he did however, have more of himself involved in his songs.
I'm glad that Carey has achieved success, but in these days of easy money and easy access (through the internet) to tunes, it's nowhere near as impressive as back when Elvis was at the top of his game. Back then, to scrape together the coins for a 45 or an LP was harder to do than it is to get a CD from the discount bin at KMart.
I kind of like the Elvis from the fifties. He was trying to please, he was kind of funny, and he was a young man. I grew to dislike his later music. He'd stopped writing, the songs that were picked for him were shallow and he seemed to drift off to country and western.
Of course, it is easy to catch up to a singer who is dead and is not currently producing new music.
Of course, it is easy to catch up to a singer who is dead and is not currently producing new music.
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Regarding those that say she can not hit the notes anymore--this is patently untrue. I have seen her as recently as her last album, perform live and hit those "vocal gymnastics" that you either hate or love.
With the release of her Butterfly album, Mariah went on record as making a conscious choice to NOT hit that signature high note in every song as many critics (especially Serena then of MTV) were targeting her because of it. Since then, she has made a point of showing that she can sing in a variety of styles including her "more breathy voice" that is found on tracks like Butterfly, The Roof and My All.
By comparison, (and this make me very sad) Whitney has demonstrated that years of smoking, drug use and marriage to Bobby Brown have really taken a toll on her ability to modulate her voice and hit her high notes. Videos of her singing I Will Always Love You and other of her signature powerhouse songs from the recent past are very hard to watch.
A few points to make here:
1. One could argue that back in the day, when people paid or coerced radio stations into playing certain songs over others, that many artists' "popularity" was manufactured and forced and that today's market is an improvement (not that many artists are not manufactured today, they are).
2. When comparing the price of music with the cost of producing albums, music costs far more today than it did back then.
3. Mariah's CDs are not going to be found in discount bins and then, neither are Elvis'.
I think it is quite impressive that in today's fickle market, she manages to reinvent her self to keep in touch with the market. Madonna is another master at this--its something that Michael and Janet Jackson struggle with--they can not seem to remain relevant.
I have always liked her, especially her use of high level vocabulary and her inventive way of singing those long and complex words. She was over and done after her nervous breakdown and she came back---with a vengeance. I have to admire her for proving that she still has it. You can tell that now she is just having fun rather than trying to make every song a hit song. This is the Garth Brooks trap and will drive any artist to lunacy.
With the release of her Butterfly album, Mariah went on record as making a conscious choice to NOT hit that signature high note in every song as many critics (especially Serena then of MTV) were targeting her because of it. Since then, she has made a point of showing that she can sing in a variety of styles including her "more breathy voice" that is found on tracks like Butterfly, The Roof and My All.
By comparison, (and this make me very sad) Whitney has demonstrated that years of smoking, drug use and marriage to Bobby Brown have really taken a toll on her ability to modulate her voice and hit her high notes. Videos of her singing I Will Always Love You and other of her signature powerhouse songs from the recent past are very hard to watch.
A few points to make here:
1. One could argue that back in the day, when people paid or coerced radio stations into playing certain songs over others, that many artists' "popularity" was manufactured and forced and that today's market is an improvement (not that many artists are not manufactured today, they are).
2. When comparing the price of music with the cost of producing albums, music costs far more today than it did back then.
3. Mariah's CDs are not going to be found in discount bins and then, neither are Elvis'.
I think it is quite impressive that in today's fickle market, she manages to reinvent her self to keep in touch with the market. Madonna is another master at this--its something that Michael and Janet Jackson struggle with--they can not seem to remain relevant.
I have always liked her, especially her use of high level vocabulary and her inventive way of singing those long and complex words. She was over and done after her nervous breakdown and she came back---with a vengeance. I have to admire her for proving that she still has it. You can tell that now she is just having fun rather than trying to make every song a hit song. This is the Garth Brooks trap and will drive any artist to lunacy.
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I liked her first and second album, when she was flat-chested, wore a leotard and jeans and looked more exotic. I also liked the songs on those albums..
YouTube - Mariah Carey-Vision Of Love
YouTube - Mariah Carey - Someday
maybe not the latter song so much - I think it just reminds of homecoming, etc.
YouTube - Mariah Carey-Vision Of Love
YouTube - Mariah Carey - Someday
maybe not the latter song so much - I think it just reminds of homecoming, etc.
I could be wrong, but it was my understanding that Mariah's just a fantasy, baby.
One of my neighbors works at a gigantic record store in LA (one of the few left) and I was walking my dog over there right after her most recent CD dropped. My neighbor is about 6'4, build like a brick shithouse, shaved head, tats everywhere. That's relevant to my story. Anyway, I stroll in to say hi, let the clerks go nuts over my dog, and suddenly there's a loud crash - my neighbor was trying to carry two huge stacks of CDs to the endcap, slipped and fell, CDs cascading all around him, and he looked at me with this pained expression and said, "Sorry... I'm overcome with Mariah."
I've been using that phrase ever since. :biggrin1:
One of my neighbors works at a gigantic record store in LA (one of the few left) and I was walking my dog over there right after her most recent CD dropped. My neighbor is about 6'4, build like a brick shithouse, shaved head, tats everywhere. That's relevant to my story. Anyway, I stroll in to say hi, let the clerks go nuts over my dog, and suddenly there's a loud crash - my neighbor was trying to carry two huge stacks of CDs to the endcap, slipped and fell, CDs cascading all around him, and he looked at me with this pained expression and said, "Sorry... I'm overcome with Mariah."
I've been using that phrase ever since. :biggrin1:
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