Moderator elections?

COLJohn said:
(without even an attempt at a segue) Why haven't you campaigned to be a mod, TOG?

Well ... I personally wouldn't mind doing it but, I really don't care either way :rolleyes: ... It is was offered to me I wouldn't say no but, I'm not going to beg for it ... :wink:
 
alex8 said:
And on a serious note: when have there ever been moderator campaigns here?

I could give out "Vote for Me" buttons ... :rolleyes:
 
COLJohn said:
Since I have been at this site, I have observed that the mods do an excellent job of moderating this place. I suspect that they were chosen based on the history of their insightful postings, their willingness to spend countless hours "patrolling" the board, and a knowledge of computers sufficient to perform the required tasks. IMO, they couldn't have come up with a better group. If others want to join them, I doubt they will have to campaign. Some mods will inevitably step down (e.g., MZ, who prefers to be an active member to being a mod), at which time, someone will fill the void without much fanfare. I wish our government worked that effectively and smoothly.
Yes!! Great people:smile:
 
Gillette said:
I think that was heavily tongue in cheek.

Of course it was. I know mods aren't elected, and I know that Chase was giving us another dose of his special humor. Behind the humor, however, serious issues arise. This thread was begun with the intent to discuss the function, limits, etc., of mods, I think. As MZ pointed out, this is a privately owned business, and Rob selects mods, but that doesn't mean members can't opine about them if they disagree with their views or methodology; and if a member actually would like to become a mod, I think he should speak up and let Rob know that. Some young members may want to become mods to add a different perspective to this place. Checks and balances? As I previously stated, I think the present mods are great, but the responsibilities of the active mods must be burdensome when not all mods have time to devote to the site, and adding a few more mods to the mix could possibly help them.
 
Good day,

I see that you seem to have taken offense to my responding to , what I thought was a "tongue in cheek" thread. I apologize if it made your or anyone else feel even more marginalized on the board. I was not acting in my Mod capacity but as yet another member who I thought had the same rights as everyone else to post. I did not ask to be a moderator, Rob E asked me. I thought long and hard about it, and then said yes. This is his site, the rest of us are just squirrels scrambling for a nut in his world.....


Lordpendragon said:
Someone asked, what was the prupose of this thread. It is a fair question and deserves an honest answer. May I also point out that the question was actually to the Mods about their views of their own legitimacy without a member mandate. I appreciate that the site is owned, I was just asking whether an alternative method might be considered given the very good explanation above as to the value of a site from it's members. As the Glazers are finding out, there is more to a club than owning the shares, well in the UK anyway.

First, a significant number of the Mods are barely visible. As was pointed out by someone else, this can lead to an impression of remoteness and therefore questions about the relevance of their views on current happenings.

Secondly, I appreciate that Naughty likes lists, but her posting of her favourites does not help those who have felt that they sense an element of favouritism and hence inconsistency in Mod actions, whether they are right or wrong.

Finally, I personally found the immodearte language used to argue with a member by Mods a while back unjustified. If you can't moderate your own language, you shouldn't be judging other people IMO.

I appreciate that I do not see everything that goes on, in truth I am glad that I don't.

I very much enjoy the lively debate and great humour here, and remarkably, you may think, I consider the Mods to be excellent and one quite outstanding. It was just a question about having a member mandate given the ongoing rumblings.
 
Lordpendragon said:
Someone asked, what was the prupose of this thread. It is a fair question and deserves an honest answer. May I also point out that the question was actually to the Mods about their views of their own legitimacy without a member mandate. I appreciate that the site is owned, I was just asking whether an alternative method might be considered given the very good explanation above as to the value of a site from it's members. As the Glazers are finding out, there is more to a club than owning the shares, well in the UK anyway.

First, a significant number of the Mods are barely visible. As was pointed out by someone else, this can lead to an impression of remoteness and therefore questions about the relevance of their views on current happenings.

Secondly, I appreciate that Naughty likes lists, but her posting of her favourites does not help those who have felt that they sense an element of favouritism and hence inconsistency in Mod actions, whether they are right or wrong.

Finally, I personally found the immodearte language used to argue with a member by Mods a while back unjustified. If you can't moderate your own language, you shouldn't be judging other people IMO.

I appreciate that I do not see everything that goes on, in truth I am glad that I don't.

I very much enjoy the lively debate and great humour here, and remarkably, you may think, I consider the Mods to be excellent and one quite outstanding. It was just a question about having a member mandate given the ongoing rumblings.

For me, I can say that when Rob_E approached me to become a Mod I was very surprised and flattered. He said I had been recommended by many members. As Naughty said, I thought about it long and hard and, in the end, agreed. I have days when I regreat it--as Zora said--you all have no clue how many behind the scenes tantrums and hurt feelings we are called to soothe.

As Mods we never gave up our ability to have heated debate or our ability to speak in our natural voices. If I had to do that, I would have never agreed to be part of the team. I saw our role as one that would bring stability to the site and help it to continue to be the great place it always has been. I look around and think that we have done fairly well.

Yes, some Mods have to take time away. Life calls. And in reality, we should not need 10 moderators for this site. I have days when I wish we needed NO Moderators. The fact is, Rob_E recognized that he could not be here everyday and he needed help in keeping the site safe and running smoothly.

Being a Mod is a headache--if I did not love this palce so much--I would have stepped down long ago. Everyday there are several members who join who are underage, several spam attempts, several posts placed in the wrong sections, and several reported posts. Most of the actions we take go unnoticed (which is the way it should be). It is mostly a seamless process.

Also--please do not assume that we Mods do not call each other to the carpet. We do. And Rob_E chimes in on all of us when he sees something that he feels we need to change or address.

In the end, this is his site and while we are, each of us, different, I think that as a Team we have done far more good things here than not. I try to look at the overall picture and not each individual action or argument/debate. I get nasty PMs when sonmeone does not agree with something I say or do. I can't really take each to heart because, in the end, what we as a team do is for the greater good of the site. Also, I recognize as someone who has leadership positions in real life, that no action (or course of action) pleases everyone all the time.

Am I one of the more vocal Mods? Yes. Is this who I really am? Yes! Am I going to change? No. You guys' expectations of us are important but clearly Rob_E is happy with the overall job we have done in steadying this place.

I look forward to the day when I , too, can step down and post with vigor without being told that I am not moderate because, I never said I was. I am me. For better or for worse.
 
Lex said:
As Mods we never gave up our ability to have heated debate or our ability to speak in our natural voices....

Yes, some Mods have to take time away. Life calls. And in reality, we should not need 10 moderators for this site. I have days when I wish we needed NO Moderators. The fact is, Rob_E recognized that he could not be here everyday and he needed help in keeping the site safe and running smoothly...


Am I one of the more vocal Mods? Yes. Is this who I really am? Yes! Am I going to change? No. You guys' expectations of us are important but clearly Rob_E is happy with the overall job we have done in steadying this place.

I look forward to the day when I , too, can step down and post with vigor without being told that I am not moderate because, I never said I was. I am me. For better or for worse.

Took me a while to be able to seperate those two roles that you and other moderators have to juggle In all fairness credit should be given to you people for being able to do all that juggling I know I have complained at times about moderators speaking in a tone I felt was wrong but you are also members and as you put it, Rob_E doesn't seem to have a problem with the work (yes, I realize it is work) that you are doing and the plug hasn't been pulled on the site so you must be doing something right.

As to elections...I would like to be the new Supreme Leader... vote for me and I'll turn this place (palace of iniquity that it sometimes is, although that just increases the allure and my interest in it) into a right wing fanatical fansite...Maybe even a Jerry Falwell autographed photo for all persons reaching 2,000 posts.
Then again I did the moderator thing on another board...never again. NEVER EVER AGAIN

Whoever the owner wants to do the overseer's job, that is the owners choice...not mine.
 
ManiacalMadMan said:
Took me a while to be able to seperate those two roles that you and other moderators have to juggle In all fairness credit should be given to you people for being able to do all that juggling I know I have complained at times about moderators speaking in a tone I felt was wrong but you are also members and as you put it, Rob_E doesn't seem to have a problem with the work (yes, I realize it is work) that you are doing and the plug hasn't been pulled on the site so you must be doing something right.

As to elections...I would like to be the new Supreme Leader... vote for me and I'll turn this place (palace of iniquity that it sometimes is, although that just increases the allure and my interest in it) into a right wing fanatical fansite...Maybe even a Jerry Falwell autographed photo for all persons reaching 2,000 posts.
Then again I did the moderator thing on another board...never again. NEVER EVER AGAIN

Whoever the owner wants to do the overseer's job, that is the owners choice...not mine.

I like the mods. They are getting better at what they do.:biggrin1: Plus, didn't hickboy apply to be one too.??
 
jeff black said:
I like the mods. They are getting better at what they do.:biggrin1: Plus, didn't hickboy apply to be one too.??
I think he was actually running for President, along with a parallel campaign of getting down on his knees and blowing, whoops, I mean begging, Matthew to ban him. Or am I confusing things again? :tongue:
 
While I agree that the moderators appear to be finding their footing, I wish that there was no need.

It puts them and us at odds by the very nature of the thing it seems.

I think Pendragon's premise was sound in his thread premise. And I see Pecker's point about "be careful what you ask for..." too. Either way I don't think there's a truly equitable solution other than everyone be especially mindful of a very delicate balance here.

For my part I've made a concerted effort since my "naughty chair" sit to ease off on the bombastic piece of my personality. It seems that it's helpful not to use an attack modus even when another poster has taken direct aim.

In the long run I agree with Lex's sentiments of affection for the board. I know he means it and I do too.

The only thing I will not brook is overt homophobia, racism, or stupidity. If any of these things is manifest on this board I'll address it with due seriousness even if I am called reactionary or accused of having an agenda. I've found that (by-in-large) the board's an immensely tolerant place with many divervse and intelligent posters.

I'm sobered that several of my favorites appear to be disenchanted with the place and their input will be sorely missed I can tell you by this poster.

But for the existence of this place alone I'm entirely grateful.
 
agnslz said:
big_dirigible, if there were such a "mechanism" that you speak of, I'M quite sure that you'd be the first "off the island"!
Well, duh.

Really, these thing practically write themselves. Despite agnslz's claimed "100% gay" orientation, I have to say that he's the ideal straight man.


agnslz said:
What are you here for... but to shit all over everybody here, and this site?:confused:
Et tu, Brute?

agnslz said:
I've 'researched' some of the history of LPSG (particularly what happened to DMW), and since the Mods were appointed around that time, I know a little about how all that went!

I have no problem as to how they were selected - the Mods themselves - or to why some are less than fair sometimes! (I have issues with Lex at the moment!:wink:)
Retain that suitable emphasis on the "little".

What a weirdo. Even I have no issues with Lex. He is hardly the Moderate Antichrist.

Some people are just too goddamn hard to please.
 
agnslz said:
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I have no problem as to how they were selected - the Mods themselves - or to why some are less than fair sometimes! (I have issues with Lex at the moment!:wink:)

I have issues with Lex, too. He's a tease! He just loves to get me all worked up, then just leaves me to take matters into my own hands.
 
COLJohn said:
Subliminally, that may one reason for your affection for Lex, DC.:wink: Parting is such sweet sorrow when done right, right?
No. He just does it to be a meanie-beanie. Don't you, Lex?

Careful, John, when Lex leaves me so frustrated, I may take those frustrations out on you. You are just a little closer, geographically.
 
DC_DEEP said:
No. He just does it to be a meanie-beanie. Don't you, Lex?

Careful, John, when Lex leaves me so frustrated, I may take those frustrations out on you. You are just a little closer, geographically.

If nothing else I have learned here, DC, I look over my shoulder at all times. You and Lex would be overpowering both intellectually and physically. I'm just a naive Midwesterner with a backwoods education -- but with an intact sphincter.
 
agnslz said:
I've 'researched' some of the history of LPSG (particularly what happened to DMW), and since the Mods were appointed around that time, I know a little about how all that went!
You're probably fooling yourself about that, as many of the more salient posts disappeared soon afterwards. Short of a Wayback Machine, you'd have some difficulty reconstructing the entire ridiculous affair in its true glory. That's not a trivial quibble - their behavior during that episode is what led some of us plebes to believe that there's nothing at all "moderate" about some of those recruited as moderators. Hence the long-festering resentment of those suffering under the moderate yoke. (NB to the militantly unreflective - I exaggerate for comic value. D'uh, obviously).