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HUMONGOUS: thanks for sharing your views. you seem to suggest that I should be bated into a name calling fistfight with the members for expressing their views. why? they are entitled to their opinion and I am entitled to mine. it is as simple as that. we do not have to agree with one another. does that mean that here has to be animosity? I thank folks for sharing and move on. I repond when i feel a response is merited. beleive me I am having fun with this.as far as you suggesting that I be banned--well let's say that i am most comfortable with that decision. you see, my friend, life will not cease to exist, because I was banned from that board and I do not attribute a whole lot of importance to the anti-LPSG. I am in control of my situation. if I become upset then you are in control of me and my emotions. i cannot allow that to happen. as far as me calling the other board the anti-LPSG, well that is exactly what it is. my calling it that suggests nothing other than what it is. they have created that atmosphere over there, and I think there are people on this board that recognize it. look at the reasons this board was created in the first place. but once again thanks for sharing. it was nice to hear from you. lol