Nudity question

[scottredleter]

i'm not timid, if i want someone to see my body i'll show them. I just would rather not have to change infront of other people if i dont have too. I'm not ashamed of my body, i just dont feel like my body is a 'community' body, a body i must share and show other human beings. Aren't i allowed to keep my body private.

secondly i'm single for a reason, i want to be. Why would i do something like marry at my age of 23yr old. I'll marry when i'm much older and my life isnt going anywhere and all the free pussy has dried up. Then i'll consider giving up my independence.

You don't have to do anything you don't want. If you have an issue with others not appreciating everything that comes out of your mouth, then that's your problem, not theirs.

You don't like it, don't do it. Why does it have to be a debate at all... oh yeah, because you asked the question.

 

[arthur]

Don't pose a question if you fear you won't like the answers. Opinion is just that. Take it as it comes.

 

[cocktailweenie]

There's a guy at my gym in his early thirties who, after his workout, heads directly for the sauna in his shorts without first taking a shower, gets all sweaty in the sauna, then when he leaves the sauna he simply pats himself down with a towel instead of taking a shower (we have dividers between the showers with no doors or curtains) and then goes back to his locker to get dressed! Sorry, but I regard this guy simply as a loon.

 

[D_Bob_Crotchitch]

Don't pose a question if you fear you won't like the answers. Opinion is just that. Take it as it comes.

Oh my! Someone with some sense.
How you doing Arthur?

 

[silvertriumph2]

I really don't see why it is any one's business but the person himself...if he wants to
do his dressing, etc in private...then it is his business...no business of anyone else...

When younger, I felt the same way, but as I have gotten older I just don't give a hoot
anymore...but that's me..

... of advice that my dad gave me years ago ... if you want to hide in a locker room, lose the towel. No one pays attention to a naked guy in a locker room. But, if you're going out of your way to hide everyone notices.

Great bit of advice his Dad gave him...and it is so true...

 

[maxcok]

Why do some men get upset when other men dont want to get naked infront of them, or change infront of them?

Same thing happened in university with me, i never wanted to change infront of the other guys and some guys kinda got angry which i found weird. I mean it's my body, if i dont have too change infront of other guys i wont.

I think your post is based on a false premise. Speaking for myself, and I doubt I'm alone in this, it doesn't make me "upset" or "angry" if a guy goes to ridiculous (and often unhygienic) lengths to keep from exposing himself in the locker room. I just think the behavior is silly, bizarre, and completely unnecessary. It becomes annoying when someone assumes incorrectly that I have some hardcore prurient interest in seeing the goods, and/or if he acts as though it's somehow offensive and overtly sexual for me others or for others to go about our business naked. Maybe on some level they're jealous, I dunno.

I wonder if this attitude has developed as younger males have grown up without the normal, natural experience of being naked in school locker rooms with their peers, while at the same time they've been bombarded with pornography on the internet. They seem to have developed the mindset that nudity automatically = sex, which is sad. Another false premise.

 

[D_Ukraine_Muhdik]

How about walking from the shower bay to to the locker area with his towel around his neck, and after getting to the locker area, proceeding to get dressed. Also doesnt bring unders with him to put on after showering.

 

[maxcok]

How about walking from the shower bay to to the locker area with his towel around his neck, and after getting to the locker area, proceeding to get dressed. Also doesnt bring unders with him to put on after showering.

What about it?

 

[B_RedDude]

Because you're a pussy and you have issues?

Why do some men get upset when other men dont want to get naked infront of them, or change infront of them?

 

[B_patrickmcc]

Needless to say modesty and immodesty run the entire gamut, and generally I find the most modest guys are the shyest in social situations as well, and have body esteem issues, whether justified or not.
I have always been fairly uninhibited about being naked around other people, and had a friend a couple of years ago that was just the opposite. We lived on the same floor in the dorm, and I never even saw him without a shirt on. One time he came into my room, and I was only in my boxer briefs. He made some comment like "dont you ever put on clothes?" and my response was basically, "dont you ever get naked?" It led to us discussing my lack of modesty and his over the top modesty, and it was definitely a case of him having severe body esteem issues.

 

[223790]

Needless to say modesty and immodesty run the entire gamut, and generally I find the most modest guys are the shyest in social situations as well, and have body esteem issues, whether justified or not.
I have always been fairly uninhibited about being naked around other people, and had a friend a couple of years ago that was just the opposite. We lived on the same floor in the dorm, and I never even saw him without a shirt on. One time he came into my room, and I was only in my boxer briefs. He made some comment like "dont you ever put on clothes?" and my response was basically, "dont you ever get naked?" It led to us discussing my lack of modesty and his over the top modesty, and it was definitely a case of him having severe body esteem issues.

Excellent retort! A good way of letting him know that it's his issue/hang up and not yours.

 

[D_Ari_Olla]

I was only in my boxer briefs. He made some comment like "dont you ever put on clothes?" and my response was basically, "dont you ever get naked?"

Doesn't he know that the standard dorm uniform is whatever underwear you had on that day? I don't think I ever wore more than a pair of boxers in the dorm, maybe a teeshirt with it from time to time, but that is about it.

 

[SR_Pepe Le Pube]

i was very modest growing up. it was how i was raised and the locker room i was shy to expose myself. as i grew into my own, i learned that i enjoyed to show off. there is nothing wrong with either. if you are modest around buds but proud around lovers, don't sweat it.

 

[pasarefun]

Doesn't he know that the standard dorm uniform is whatever underwear you had on that day? I don't think I ever wore more than a pair of boxers in the dorm, maybe a teeshirt with it from time to time, but that is about it.

I freeballed all the time back then but I did not live in the dorms - I went to a school that was just building dorms so I lived at home. So if I did get the live in the dorms, I guess I would have to buy some boxers to hang around in.

 

[ColonialBoy]

Same thing happened in university with me, i never wanted to change infront of the other guys and some guys kinda got angry which i found weird. I mean it's my body, if i dont have too change infront of other guys i wont.

This topic has been discussed here many times, "extreme modesty" seems prevalent in USA/Australia/UK but not generally in Europe.

As for the causes there are many theories
- the "sexualisation" of the male image in the past 30 years eg models in underwear in provocative poses on billboards
- the "pedophile priests" issue eg every man has to prove he's not a pedophile
- kids growing up faster, loss if innocence


30 years ago all this "towel dancing" & wearing underwear in the shower wasn't the custom; you got changed, had a shower & went on your way. You certainly didn't write essays about being nude while changing for sport. There was the usual towel flicking & joking back then but being very modest wasnt on anyone's radar.

 

[220483]

there's a male bonding when guys get naked together. in the gym, army, wherver they need to get themselfs naked and change [or get out of] clothes.
The 'angry' issue, as you said, is sometimes realted to those self asteem problems we all have. And when all are naked, being the only one who's not, seems strange and can have those 'angry' retorts you talked about. maybe he's shy, or have a small dick.. uhh.. he dosn't whant to show what he has down there... all sorts of mouth words come out and make you feel even worst.

relax, be yourself, confident and learn that YOU don't need to showoff... in fact you don't need to show nothing.. and if you don't, just creat the myth you're just so ABOVE normal that you have to keep to yourself.. wife, gf, bf..

 

[nicenycdick]

I've never understood why this is such a hot debate. The guy that wears a towel when every other guy is naked is certainly bucking the norm. But he's not making a statement about the other guys...he's dealing with his own modesty. At the same time, the fact that the rest of the guys get angry or insulted is absurd. And reveals something about their own issues I imagine; the demand that all conform to some accepted "norm" is driven by it's own fear. In the end, the disregard of another's modesty is unfair and cruel...something men are very good at practicing.

As in all social situations, you make your own decisions about conforming. If you step outside the box, do so with the understanding that you will be judged...even if it is unfairly done.

 

[PDuvalEE]

I generally don't get upset - but I do note it if a guy takes aggressive evasive action in a locker room. But I have to say -- if it's cold out or I am wet, my pride and joy shrinks to a fraction of its usual self -- and since this is a competition, I don't want to enter into it unless we are on a level playing field.

Scenario: You undress with a friend, member is looking good -- you are equals or at least respected...bonding achieved.

Next scenario: You are freezing cold and wet. You disrobe and your buddy cant see you "where'd your dick go man" -- and you have lost this particular competition.

So perhaps shyness could be scenario/event driven?

 

[citr]

I've never understood why this is such a hot debate. The guy that wears a towel when every other guy is naked is certainly bucking the norm. But he's not making a statement about the other guys...he's dealing with his own modesty. At the same time, the fact that the rest of the guys get angry or insulted is absurd. And reveals something about their own issues I imagine; the demand that all conform to some accepted "norm" is driven by it's own fear. In the end, the disregard of another's modesty is unfair and cruel...something men are very good at practicing.

As in all social situations, you make your own decisions about conforming. If you step outside the box, do so with the understanding that you will be judged...even if it is unfairly done.

I completely agree. Sometimes I want to go modest just to piss the assholes off.

I do not care either way about whether a dude joins the rest in getting naked. If he prefers to remain covered up that's cool, and there's always the chance that he has some disfigurement he reasonably does not want to display. But goddammit if I'm naked in the locker room it's not because this is some Male Bonding Hour: I'm just taking a fucking shower! I am not impressed by your conformity to locker room protocol, and I certainly don't feel any closer to you since you've now seen my penis.

 

[nicenycdick]

I completely agree. Sometimes I want to go modest just to piss the assholes off.

I do not care either way about whether a dude joins the rest in getting naked. If he prefers to remain covered up that's cool, and there's always the chance that he has some disfigurement he reasonably does not want to display. But goddammit if I'm naked in the locker room it's not because this is some Male Bonding Hour: I'm just taking a fucking shower! I am not impressed by your conformity to locker room protocol, and I certainly don't feel any closer to you since you've now seen my penis.

Yes...