overpopulation

[D_Gunther Snotpole]

I heard a comment for a sustainable global population as low a 500 million...

I have no idea if it would have to be that low, but it would have to be a lot lower than the 6.5 billion people we have today, imo.

 

[holsty101]

I have no idea if it would have to be that low, but it would have to be a lot lower than the 6.5 billion people we have today, imo.

Yeah, that did seem a bit low ... IIRC the other estimates ranged between 1 - 3 billion.

 

[B_ScaredLittleBoy]

There may have been many human beings who lived in times past but there have never been so many human beings alive at the same time.

This is the problem; this is overpopulation.

 

[burns1de]

I heard a comment for a sustainable global population as low a 500 million...

Again, that number is constantly thrown around by the global elite, most specifically the Rothschilds... stop it already, you guys are freaking me out.

 

[whatireallywant]

How much population the earth CAN sustain and how much it SHOULD sustain are two different things. Surely "quality of life" issues, global warming, pollution, longevity, health are all things that are impacted (most likely negatively) by population growth. However, we are combatting our MOST basic instinct when we propose cutting back on how many descendants we bring into the world.

NOTHING is more hardwired into our composition than making more of us. It takes intelligence, education, thoughtful discourse, social pressure, and available alternatives to combat something so primal and universal.

And so those of us who do truly choose not to have children should not be scorned for our decision! I can't even remember how many times I've been told that I'm neglecting my "duty", that I'm selfish, etc. etc... I simply think I'm not cut out mentally/emotionally to have children. It would not only be bad for me, it would not be fair to the child either.

 

[Willy_the_Wonka]

I would go so far to say that a major portion of the population has absolutely no business reproducing, let alone in copious amounts.

 

[BigDuder]

I would go so far to say that a major portion of the population has absolutely no business reproducing, let alone in copious amounts.

unfortunately, those are are the people who reproduce the most:

YouTube - Idiocracy Intro - Evolution

 

[whatireallywant]

I would go so far to say that a major portion of the population has absolutely no business reproducing, let alone in copious amounts.

:biggrin1::biggrin1:

I think I KNOW those people! There are a lot of them in my hometown...

As they say, "Stupid people shouldn't breed". :biggrin1:

 

[deleted15807]

The planet is full of 'bags of mostly water'. What an alien species called mankind on Star Trek. An astonishing 50 million acres of forest is destroyed every year. This can't go on forever. From space you can see the disappearing forests. The coral reefs are dying. Vast habitats are vanishing. The world is literally under siege from human development. Only thing that will be alive in 100 yrs are humans, insects, rodents and tasty animals everything else will be gone.

World Population Clock

 

[Love-it]

And so those of us who do truly choose not to have children should not be scorned for our decision! I can't even remember how many times I've been told that I'm neglecting my "duty", that I'm selfish, etc. etc... I simply think I'm not cut out mentally/emotionally to have children. It would not only be bad for me, it would not be fair to the child either.

I think I KNOW those people! There are a lot of them in my hometown...

As they say, "Stupid people shouldn't breed". :biggrin1:

Early in our marriage my wifes grandmother told us that we should reproduce because because the dummies were out-breeding the intelligentsia.

There is a movie titled "Idiocracy" that gives an idea of how it could play out if the morons predominate.

 

[whatireallywant]

Early in our marriage my wifes grandmother told us that we should reproduce because because the dummies were out-breeding the intelligentsia.

There is a movie titled "Idiocracy" that gives an idea of how it could play out if the morons predominate.

I've thought of this too. I think it could be because more of the intelligent people realize that they are not mentally/emotionally prepared to raise children. I don't really know what to do about this, since I believe in personal freedom to decide when or whether to have children. I would not want to force someone to have children when they don't want them, and would not really want to force someone NOT to have them if they do want them.

 

[Willy_the_Wonka]

And therein lies the rub.

 

[Male Bonding etc]

Indeed!

 

[D_Gunther Snotpole]

And therein lies the rub.

Yup, it usually starts with rubbing.

 

[pronatalist]

Re: Going against nature, at least in human procreation, is folly and probably futile.

How much population the earth CAN sustain and how much it SHOULD sustain are two different things. Surely "quality of life" issues, global warming, pollution, longevity, health are all things that are impacted (most likely negatively) by population growth. However, we are combatting our MOST basic instinct when we propose cutting back on how many descendants we bring into the world.

NOTHING is more hardwired into our composition than making more of us. It takes intelligence, education, thoughtful discourse, social pressure, and available alternatives to combat something so primal and universal.

That it is supposedly so hard to "control" the natural increase of humans, is a practical reason why I advocate that people not bother with awkward, experimental, anti-life contraceptives, and welcome babies to push out naturally.

An obvious purpose of human life, is to make more human life.

The natural and elegant outlet for powerful human reproductive urges, is ... reproduction.

Our ancestors seemed to understand this, a practical and common reason why families tended to be large.

Intelligence, education, social discource, can be put to much better use, towards population accomodation only, not needless meddlesome population "control."

Let the planet urbanize to whatever extent needed, to better hold all the people. "The more the merrier" they often say.

 

[pronatalist]

Yup, it usually starts with rubbing.

I've heard that "What populates the planet is extremely pleasurable."

And I expect it is for some very good, intelligent reason that it was designed thus.

 

[Redbabe01]

What about famine, disease, poverty, and ext. Everything has its limit and this planet can only handle some many ppl. You have to think of things like soil depletion and such. Sooooo tired, but cant sleep!!!!

 

[pronatalist]

I heard a comment for a sustainable global population as low a 500 million...

A better "goal" would be more like 500 billion or more, if ever we get the time or opportunity. That ought to leave plenty of room for me, and everybody I know, to go on having all the children we were meant to have, well into the forseeable future.

Most people are not finished having children, a practical reason why we really do need "more" population. Which of course, is also a reason likely to be claimed, in the future as well.

 

[pronatalist]

What about famine, disease, poverty, and ext. Everything has its limit and this planet can only handle some many ppl. You have to think of things like soil depletion and such. Sooooo tired, but cant sleep!!!!

Well of course I also advocate some sensible ADAPTATIONS that we are already making anyway, not like we have no idea how to accomodate more people.

Say like more flush toilets for the developing nations. Not tossing anti-life condoms in their faces. No longer can some defectate in empty fields, when those fields are filled in with human housing as far as the eye can see.

Pronatalism helps solve all those problems you mention, because it's all about family values and respect for fellow human beings.

 

[Whopper-lee]

do you guys think that the world already is overpopulated?

I ask because many people currently dont think that the planet isover populated . My opinion is that the planet is really overpopulated.

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"...over populated..." with what
If you mean people (human bodies)...have no fear...I promise I aint gonna make no more little people (babies) ....14 is enough for me:biggrin1:

You might want to give my uncle a call, he got 17 and maybe one on the way again.:biggrin1::biggrin1:
Men in my family are very fruitful:wink::biggrin1: