Polygamy

[The Dragon]

I would be more than happy having more than one man in my life but having them under the one roof one might expect that there would a testosterone driven pissing contest at some point.

 

[Principessa]

No I am talking about main stream, living in the burbs, Non religious polygamy. NOT these bizzare cults that pop up.

Belive it or not I saw a special about it on Oprah and these were middle class clean cut middle American people, The man had three wives and they had 3 kids. They all lived in the same house. All the women were very bright, opinionated and direct. I don't belive there was any one "Master" in that household.

Okay, now I know where you are coming from. I saw that show when it originally aired, but had a completely different opinion. While the women appeared bright and current in their attire and speech there was no mistaking the man was head of that household.They did in fact belong to a fringe religion though they didn't live in the commune like village of Centennial Park.

 

[HazelGod]

Polygamy is criminal.

It only survives as a lifestyle choice where women are kept as virtual slaves, without access to real education or even accurate information about the outside world.

It it identical to arguing that men in NAMBLA should be allowed to fuck boys.

Pffft...not even close. I've seen an episode like the one mentioned below on Discovery Health or some other cable network, and it was fascinating. These were all consenting adults. None were forced into any relationship, and none married young. I could do it very easily...but I don't think the Mrs. is in the same mindframe. C'est la vie, non?

To the larger question of legality...the fact that polygamy / polyamory is criminalised is utterly stupid,. and the comparison to gay marriage is spot-on. The ultimate issue is the state having the power to define what constitutes acceptable adult relationships...and many, myself included, do not believe that is a power that resides with government.

No I am talking about main stream, living in the burbs, Non religious polygamy.
NOT these bizzare cults that pop up.

Belive it or not I saw a special about it on Ophra and these where middle class clean cut middle American people, The man had three wives and they had 3 kids.
They all lived in the same house.
All the women were very bright, opinionated and direct.
I don't belive there was any one "Master" in that household.

If this is the same program I saw, we got quite a laugh out of the guy being asked about who "wore the pants." He grinned and shook his head, saying something about being outnumbered by angry women. It was obvious that nobody in their arrangement was being subjugated in any shape or form.

I would be more than happy having more than one man in my life but having them under the one roof one might expect that there would a testosterone driven pissing contest at some point.

More like bloodbath...and you can count on it, gorgeous. :wink:

 

[eyemready]

I belive that polygamy should be legalized.
I don't for one second endorse lowering the age of consent or the age that people should get married.
But Polygamy should be seen as a lifestyle choice just as monogamy is.
It isn't a lifestyle that I would choose for myself but I do belive that people have the right to choose their lifestyle without being made criminals for it.

The problems come not from polygamist individuals but polygamist communities. Every once in a while they throw a few hundred teen age boys out because they want the pussy for the old goats.

 

[Phil Ayesho]

Not all multiple marriages are like that.

The FLDS group is in fact sort of like a hetero NAMBLA, but not all who would practice multiple marriage are like that.

As far as I am aware, marriage of any person who is below a certain age is illegal - male or female, couple or multiple. There are already laws that address that issue.

Making it illegal for informed, majority-age persons to marry whomever they choose is stupid, and actually, unconstitutional.

As I said.... there are no laws preventing consenting adults from living in any combination they please.

But, the groups who demand it be legal to marry are Muslims and LDS fanatics.

And both groups indoctrinate their women with delusional nonsense, and both groups tend to want to marry off young girls to old men.


As to it being unconstitutional...
The constitution does not grant the federal government any say over marriage.

That is left to the states.

I personally don't care how folks choose to live... but I am opposed to the indoctrination of children with belief systems such as polygamy, such as religion, such as racism...

Sorry... I just don't see many great examples of healthy polygamy...

 

[The Dragon]

More like bloodbath...and you can count on it, gorgeous. :wink:[/quote]

Sounds like Cat does not like to share.

 

[dajunglee786]

there arent many people around who can handle more than 1 partner. thats the biggest problem. most people can front it out as if they can, reality is they cant lol.

dont think it will ever be legalised. interesting thread though.

 

[NorthernSchlong]

It only survives as a lifestyle choice where women are kept as virtual slaves, without access to real education or even accurate information about the outside world.

Wow you really don't know what you are talking about do you....

Now I agree that there are those polygamist groups that don't treat women like people but there are lots who do. I know some polygamists and they are just like everybody else and have normal well adjusted homes.

Please don't base your view on polygamy by people like warren jeffs

 

[DC_DEEP]

Why is the assumption always one man, multiple women?

If it were legalized it might be just as common, particularly in Western society, to see one woman with multiple husbands.

I've recently been having this fantasy with two bisexual guys...

Precisely why I was careful to reference "multiple marriage" rather than polygamy, ma'am.

As I said.... there are no laws preventing consenting adults from living in any combination they please.

But, the groups who demand it be legal to marry are Muslims and LDS fanatics.

You mean, it's your understanding and experience that the groups who want it legalised are Muslims and LDS fanatics. Just because you aren't aware of other circumstances, that doesn't mean that other circumstances don't exist.

As to it being unconstitutional...
The constitution does not grant the federal government any say over marriage.

That is left to the states.

Absolutely correct in the first part. But keep in mind, the states are free to make their own laws in that respect, as long as those laws are in compliance with the US Constitution. Most current state marriage laws violate 1st and 14th Amendment mandates. States are also free to make laws concerning suffrage, but are not free to arbitrarily decide to deny voting rights to black or female citizens, or to raise the voting age to 21. The laws passed by any state still have to meet constitutional standards.

... but I am opposed to the indoctrination of children with belief systems such as polygamy, such as religion, such as racism...

Then you should not indoctrinate children. See how simple that is? If you don't believe in same-sex marriage, then you should not marry a man. If you don't believe in polygamy, then you should not marry more than one woman at a time.

I don't believe in any gods, and I find many religions to be offensive and disgusting, but I don't feel that it's my mandate to make it illegal for anyone else to do it. Do you see the parallel?

 

[Jovial]

You should only be allowed to have multiple spouses if you qualify as an accredited investor.

 

[DC_DEEP]

I would be more than happy having more than one man in my life but having them under the one roof one might expect that there would a testosterone driven pissing contest at some point.

Well, you know the old saying...

More than one louse = lice.
More than one mouse = mice.
More than one spouse = spice.

And I'm sure that for you, dear Dragonfly, you like it spicy!

 

[Drifterwood]

Polyandry (multiple husbands) is not uncommon in some cultures, notably Tibet.

Marriage is a societal construction to give a society a solid base. It is not intended as we in the West wish, as a consumation of romantic love. Thus polygamy and polyandry are pragmatic institutions in historically poorer cultures. A rich man can give a good home to many women and their children, poor men share one wife to give that woman and her children a secure home.

Monogamous marriage is just genetically impractical for many people, 25% of men and 15% of women, according to the Kinsey institute. Having noted that, I am not convinced though that polygamy and polyandry are still suitable for sexual happiness within a contractual marriage format.

I do completely agree with the point that it should be no more proscribed than same sex marriage amongst consenting adults.

 

[DC_DEEP]

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I do completely agree with the point that it should be no more proscribed than any other marriage amongst any consenting adults.

Fixed that for ya, Dee-Dub.

 

[invisibleman]

Why is the assumption always one man, multiple women?

If it were legalized it might be just as common, particularly in Western society, to see one woman with multiple husbands.

I've recently been having this fantasy with two bisexual guys...

Sisters doin' it for themselves. :smile: I think that is fair.

 

[Gillette]

I would be more than happy having more than one man in my life but having them under the one roof one might expect that there would a testosterone driven pissing contest at some point.

It's a fair point. I've played with the idea in my head from time to time and I think that competition issues would certainly raise their head if all parties were strictly heterosexual. There would always be at least one feeling left out or not as included. If one or more of the multiple gender had a lower sex drive competition would be less of a factor.

I think if the multiple spouses were bisexual then they would also be bonded with each other and feel less need to compete for the single spouses time and attention. All parties would then have the variety of sexual and emotional partners within the bounds of the relationship.

Still not perfect, as with a group of best friends there will always be two who more closely aligned than the others at any one time and the dynamic shifts frequently, but I think a more equitable arrangement.

 

[OPPinSLC]

An additional problem with polygamy now is that the additional spouses are considered unwed mothers and therefore qualify for public assistance.

As long as it is between concenting adults, I see no problem with polygamy (multiple wives or husbands).

 

[TurkeyWithaSunburn]

Polygamist Wives speak out in a music video
YouTube - Polygamy Wives Exposed!

:biggrin1:

 

[whatireallywant]

Why is the assumption always one man, multiple women?

If it were legalized it might be just as common, particularly in Western society, to see one woman with multiple husbands.

I've recently been having this fantasy with two bisexual guys...

Hey, I've thought of that too! I could SO be into having more than one husband!!! :smile: (I like that fantasy!)

 

[whatireallywant]

Well, you know the old saying...

More than one louse = lice.
More than one mouse = mice.
More than one spouse = spice.

And I'm sure that for you, dear Dragonfly, you like it spicy!

Love it! "Spice"!

 

[The Dragon]

MMMM Spicy. Yummy.