Racism

[OhWiseOne]

As previous posts have said eye/hair/skin color, body type, age I see as preferences not racism. Just because I may not find a person sexually attractive doesn't mean I rule them out as a friend. If I see a white man with a black woman am I offended? NO

 

[D_Dick_S_Lapp]

I don't see preferences as racism or at least not yet. It isn't a far leap from saying "i like such and such" to "because blank is such and such". Many have and will fall over that line. When you start to say that a particular race is better, thats when you start to go into a certain sort of territory. This is another one of those topics that will never and i mean never be resolved. Cause it just so happens that issues like this can and most times do spread into other categories. Like body, career, and penis size. Seems like we humans will never get out of the need to degrade each other.

 

[Pierced1953]

I agree with one post here that most people are racist, me included. My gf is black, my ex was Costa Rican and my first wife was a blonde. I don't think a person's sexual preference would be racist because they didn't find a different race or color attractive. I have an friend, hispanic man who won't date hispanic women because he doesn't like dark pussies. My gf who is black and is not a racist at all prefers white men and has only dated and had sex with a black man twice, one who I introduced her to.

She will also tell you she thinks more blacks/middle eastern are more racist than whites. I fell for my gf while being in the hospital, being treated for strokes where I had lost my vision, her perfessional manner, passion was above all most remarkable. I didn't know her color, nor race until days later when my vision returned. When I close my left eye all I see is a figure, when I see her with my one good eye I see a beautiful lady. I don't have a fetish for dark skin or dark pussies I love them all. I also have gay friends who I love dearly, but not attracted to men.

Hope this gives some kind of answer to the post.

 

[rbkwp]

Racism
Do you think that it's racist ......

No i dont
Colored myself, a lifetime of preferring whites, amd NO shame with that preference.
have absolutley NO thought that preference is related to racism

But, maybe you've been on the receiving end...................... Would you view this rejection as racism?

Racism is,when a 50 plus white man says to whomever would listen ( directed to myself at 16 yrs of age)
'strange animal that'
Yeah he a foreigner in my country ...well' do you think he would get away with that crap.
even with my innocent rural background, i knew no pom was going to come from his country and lay that crap on any of us
White South Africans have tended to try similar in the last 20 years, (even to indigenous Maori in our own country)
but far more cautious these days, as they know they cant get away with it here now.
in saying that Black SAs may also try similar actions, dont know havent heard of any.
(if anything i am assuming blacks, Somailis fr inst, continue to feel suppressed due to there colour .. may be wrong?)
Thanks OP

 

[Silvertip]

I believe that a simple, non-bigoted preference for race or skin color in one's sex partners is no different than preferring or not preferring sex partners who are fat/thin, tall/short, smokers/non-smokers, hairy/smooth, urban/rural, refined/crude, etc., etc., etc. In short, different strokes for different folks. No big thing; no harm, no foul.

Do you think that it's racist of a person not to be interested in (or even of a person to seek out) someone of a particular race or skin color? ...

In the case of race, yes, simply by definition that particular interest is racist. In the case of skin color it's racist only if the skin color is assumed to be associated with a given race. But in either case it's not necessarily a bad thing. The NAACP and LULAC, for example, are racist; just as NOW is sexist. That's not to say that there is anything wrong or bad about the NAACP, LULAC or NOW organizations. "Racist" by definition only denotes that one is making assumptions that certain characteristics are associated with a given race. Such assumptions can be entirely valid, otherwise we'd be unable to define races. So try to get over the widely held belief that "racist" is, in and of itself, bad. It is not. Racial bigotry, however, is quite another thing. When someone or something is obstinately, intolerantly and perniciously racist that truly is a bad thing. I'm afraid that political correctness has run amok in this country. We'd all do well to open our minds to the fact that there are certain "racist" elements in our society that are perfectly acceptable and OK.

 

[D_22]

is it sexist to be straight?

Yes. Yes, it is. :wink:

 

[Catharsis]

racist: no thanks, i don't date blacks

not racist: no thanks, you're not my type

I know the difference, but I was just interested to see what others people thought of the matter. Then again, I suppose what you're saying is that it is context-dependent, and I think that's very true.

I do think that a point brought up about this being an irrational preference is an interesting one... But then I think, in that case, any preferences would be considered irrational.

Anyway, I didn't intend to consider a person who is actually racist who won't date someone of that race. I actually meant a person who is not sexually attracted to someone of a certain race but would have no problem, for example, being friends with them.

 

[B_thickjohnny]

The definition of racism is the absolute dislike (bordering on hatred) and/or intolerance of people of another race. Saying you prefer to date white guys (if you're white for example) is not an example of racism. It's a simple preference. Like saying I'm only interested in blonds or twinks or bears. Some guys prefer Asian, some prefer black. What's in a name? Seriously. If a black (or white or Asian) guy is offended by this, we have more problems than we care to admit.

Just to add: I've seen profiles on Gridr that say "no race issues but prefer white" written by a white guy. I don't think that's racism in any way, shape or form.

 

[azladd]

An irrational preference is a prejudice. I say irrational because most times, I don't suppose people have experienced what they say they don't like, and some people need to develop their own comfort levels more than others. It is IMO more difficult to connect culturally than sexually.

I would agree. I've lived and worked in Europe and had no problems with people being attracted to me or willing to go on a date. With that being said, you have to wonder what is the difference between them and people here in the US. While some would maintain the preference argument, alot of it is rooted in racial bias , age bias, size bias, etc. As far as race is concerned, I wouldnt call it racism, but it is a form of prejudice. Also our media plays a huge role in what is acceptable as being attractive. I see too many couples that are clones of themselves when it comes to outward appearances .

 

[Smallprivate]

I think a majority (not all) of our preferences are sparked during childhood/young adult development...They come from good and not so good experiences or lessons we were taught or learned. I think its good to challenge them, challenge ourselves so we are not limiting ourselves...but honestly when u reach a certain age, they are pretty much hardwired as your likes and dislikes. The world is full of colors and they are all beautiful, if we're limiting our spectrum-we're missing out on some amazing people.

 

[luvinlife83]

Do you think that it's racist of a person not to be interested in (or even of a person to seek out) someone of a particular race or skin color?

I have seen one member on here being criticized for being racist when they mentioned that they aren't interested in black people. But I don't think that was racism or any other type of discrimination - I just think that we all have our own preferences, and this may or may not include skin color.

But, maybe you've been on the receiving end and felt discriminated against because someone rejected you for being of a certain race. Would you view this rejection as racism?

If they said they don't like black people, then that is racist. If it's in the context of what they prefer, then no. It's all in the language. Being attracted to a specific race is not racist. If it is, then I am racist because I am attracted to white men more than black men, and black women more than white women.

 

[Pierced1953]

I think a majority (not all) of our preferences are sparked during childhood/young adult development...They come from good and not so good experiences or lessons we were taught or learned. I think its good to challenge them, challenge ourselves so we are not limiting ourselves...but honestly when u reach a certain age, they are pretty much hardwired as your likes and dislikes. The world is full of colors and they are all beautiful, if we're limiting our spectrum-we're missing out on some amazing people.

Nicely put!

 

[redz_rule]

Hmmmm. Difficult question. On the one hand, I think sexual attraction is sexual attraction... you can't dictate what someone finds attractive, nor can you demand someone find all others equally attractive... chemistry is complicated and I don't know how much of it is unconscious.

On the other hand, if someone is attracted to/feels chemistry with another person but won't date them, despite the attraction, because of their race then that to me is racist.

 

[SilverTrain]

Do you think that it's racist of a person not to be interested in (or even of a person to seek out) someone of a particular race or skin color?

I have seen one member on here being criticized for being racist when they mentioned that they aren't interested in black people. But I don't think that was racism or any other type of discrimination - I just think that we all have our own preferences, and this may or may not include skin color.

But, maybe you've been on the receiving end and felt discriminated against because someone rejected you for being of a certain race. Would you view this rejection as racism?

Query whether I'd be considered racist if I was "really into Japanese girls" or I "loved having sex with black guys"?

Hmmmm. Difficult question. On the one hand, I think sexual attraction is sexual attraction... you can't dictate what someone finds attractive, nor can you demand someone find all others equally attractive... chemistry is complicated and I don't know how much of it is unconscious.

On the other hand, if someone is attracted to/feels chemistry with another person but won't date them, despite the attraction, because of their race then that to me is racist.

Well put.

 

[D_Sal_Manilla]

We all have a preference.

not dating someone because the are fat is not wrong. that's just a preference.

I dont date black guys
or gym rats,
or fem guys
or smooth/hairless guys

does that make me a bad person. No


I've been rejected because i was Hispanic, because I'm fat, and because i pierced my nipples. I never got angry or upset.

People have different standards and criteria.
if you don't meet them then, tough shit. Deal with it.

This world is becoming to sensitive.

and people have to stop using the "race" card.

 

[Catharsis]

Query whether I'd be considered racist if I was "really into Japanese girls" or I "loved having sex with black guys"?

I don't know, that's why I wanted to see what others thought.

I was also considering more of a fetish rather than a preference... Like what Fade mentioned in her post. Maybe it wouldn't be considered racist if you fetishize a race, but it can get annoying...? Think of it another way, although I don't know how often this actually occurs between people - would you think that perhaps someone was interested in you only because of your race and not necessarily because of everything (else) that you are?

 

[VikingDude]

No, i don't think its racism :/

Racism is hating an entire race or thinking one race is superior to another or believing that race plays into whatever "superior" or "inferior" traits someone has. What you're talking about is prefference and its perfectly fine for people to be that way. Me for example, i will date anyone regardless of race but i will more than likely marry another white person (mostly someone else of germanic stock) simply because i want my children to look like me or my parents. There's nothing racist about that. Also people who say that "Were all the human race" and that there is no races are delluding themselves. There are clear biological differences between groups of people just as there is with different breeds of cats & dogs. For you to ignore all of this and ignore those differences....well thats just PC bs. Were all apart of the same species that does not mean we are all homogeneous.

 

[WillyLong]

I recently discovered the sex appeal of chiseled, hung black men.

I ain't mad at you. :wink:

 

[D_Sal_Manilla]

For you to ignore all of this and ignore those differences....well thats just PC bs. Were all apart of the same species that does not mean we are all homogeneous.

:clap:

 

[SilverTrain]

No, i don't think its racism :/

Racism is hating an entire race or thinking one race is superior to another or believing that race plays into whatever "superior" or "inferior" traits someone has. What you're talking about is prefference and its perfectly fine for people to be that way. Me for example, i will date anyone regardless of race but i will more than likely marry another white person (mostly someone else of germanic stock) simply because i want my children to look like me or my parents. There's nothing racist about that. Also people who say that "Were all the human race" and that there is no races are delluding themselves. There are clear biological differences between groups of people just as there is with different breeds of cats & dogs. For you to ignore all of this and ignore those differences....well thats just PC bs. Were all apart of the same species that does not mean we are all homogeneous.

Biological differences among races do not exist, WU research shows