Straight men identifying as bisexual because of trans attraction?
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Oh my i knew I'd find transphobic comments here. Not going to engage cause comments on a forum aren't going to change anyone's minds. I just pray to all gods that transphobic users of this forum hit their pinkies on furniture
Many females can be born with male chromosomes therefore technically "biologically male". Also, women with down or turner's syndrome don't have the traditional XX chromosomes. Does this make them less of a woman? What about older women who go through menopause and no longer get periods and can't give birth? Let alone millions of younger women who don't experience periods and/or pregnancy. In regard to women's sports, while I do believe there should be regulations, many people seem to forget women have biological advantages over other women. For example, a 6ft woman is going to have an advantage over a woman who is 5ft2 in a game of basketball. Limiting women to biological markers only limits the diversity of a woman simply existing.
Come up with a better response than "K. lol" K?
Tbh you associating biologically born women who have natural hormonal deformities with trans women is actually insulting. You insisted that they actually aren’t women, I didn’t. Cis born women were born into a world where they immediately recognized that they were the patriarchy’s pushing bag and never had the privilege that cis men did. Stop with the mental gymnastics. I don’t play into them. The question here is if a man is bisexual for engaging with trans women. I do believe he is, especially if he has sex with a trans women who is pre-op which is majority of trans women. If he cannot vaginally penetrate them bc they don’t have a vagina and has to do it anally, due to that being the only orifice they have, it’s not straight. You can have your opinion but I have mine.
Firstly, no one is and ever will be born a woman as its defined as an adult female human. Secondly, its reality and shows there isn't an absolute way to be female/woman, they are regardless of circumstance. If you find that offensive, go outside in the sun. Everything I said is true, no mental gymnastics here. You clearly have a victim mentality. I don't care what your opinion is, life goes on outside this thread where straight men continue to engage in sexual relations with ts women regardless of what you think. Your argument points are honestly so weak you're not even worth engaging with.
Bye.
Wait, I'm not done...to assume every female is immediately disadvantaged by the patriarchy is beyond delusional and with your logic, apparently "insulting" as if women with good lives and/or privilege don't exist. TS women do and will face this, especially if they pass and/or simply live their lives as women and are seen as such; this can even apply to gay men or anyone who doesn't fit the role within the patriarchy. To generalise women and immediately assume they are born as the "patriarchy's punching bag" like they are prey is more misogynistic than anything I've said. Finally, not all sex is penetrative; it can be oral. With your logic, it must be gay to fuck a womans ass...You do realise that genetalia regardless is made of the same constructive tissues, just in different forms right?
OK, now I'm done.
Cya.
I dont have any issue with men who consider themselves straight having sex with ts women. I think you have an internalized homophobia and think theres an issue with men who have sex with ts women, being gay isnt a bad thing fyi. If men who engage with transwomen are straight then why is there still such a stigma in society and its a secret to most of them? Im actually over this now. Again, you have your viewpoint and I have mine.
Have a great Memorial Day, sis
Just because you think society has a generalised viewpoint doesn't make it right. Remember when white people thought it was okay to segregate and enslave yet that was what was seen as normal? This has nothing to do with gay men or homophobia, not once did I mention that outside of the patriarchy you randomly mentioned. There is a stigma because of assholes like you. Do you really think men don't have sexual relations with cis women in secret? Not everyone has to know their business. Yes, you're entitled to your wrong viewpoint because you can't handle that straight men like ts women.I dont have any issue with men who consider themselves straight having sex with ts women. I think you have an internalized homophobia and think theres an issue with men who have sex with ts women, being gay isnt a bad thing fyi. If men who engage with transwomen are straight then why is there still such a stigma in society and its a secret to most of them? Im actually over this now. Again, you have your viewpoint and I have mine.
Have a great Memorial Day, sis
Sorry but the world isn't the USA, we don't have Memorial Day here so no I won't have a great Memorial Day because it doesn't exist here
I'm also female so I don't have any internalized homophobia but go off "sis" lolI dont have any issue with men who consider themselves straight having sex with ts women. I think you have an internalized homophobia and think theres an issue with men who have sex with ts women, being gay isnt a bad thing fyi. If men who engage with transwomen are straight then why is there still such a stigma in society and its a secret to most of them? Im actually over this now. Again, you have your viewpoint and I have mine.
Have a great Memorial Day, sis
I think you're the one with the phobia.
I know youre an idiot bc any gender can have internalized homophobia. Lmao thanks for confirming what I knew all along.
Internalized means its within someone who is that from the group that phobia stems from, hence why its called internalized, otherwise why not just say homophobia - fuck you're stupid lmao
No dummy. Internalized homophobia is when anyone of a sexual orientation has been programmed to believe heteronormativity is the only normal and natural way To live life and that attitudes towards homosexuality values are wrong. Go get a college degree before you think you know everything. Plus, a woman being on this site like kinda pathetic ngl. You must’ve been a man at some point lol.
Internalized “phobias” happen when someone in a minority group has internalized society's hatred toward them.
Google is free babe, you sound like a fool.
So women can't have free will to visit public sites? So much for your words about the patriarchy. Go take your transphobic, misogynist, internalized homophobia, black male fetishist ass elsewhere.
You sound like someone with broken English, probably asian or latino lmao
I'm sorry this is just a bunch of bullshit to make yourself seem more intelligent than you are
"objective logic you and they are gleaning from"
"we must be in order to remain in order to be sexually successful"
Really? These sentences aren't only grammatically incorrect but are repetitive and don't make sense.
You could quite literally apply this logic to any type of woman that isn't conventionally acceptable within their personal standards, for example a woman who is fat, black, ethnic, trans ect. I've met many men who are straight with an attraction to both cis and trans women but would never find a male attractive. Why do you think this is? It's because they view ts women as women, its genuinely as simple as that.
Yet no ones opinion on here has been removed? Stop playing the victim card. Also, transphobia and the denial of existence isn't an opinion.
Firstly izzy I wasn't playing any type of victim so not sure where you came up with that theory bless your soul. I was point out that particular views are not tolerated
I think you are more invested in attacking something that triggered your feelings, then in refuting a point you think I was making. I'm curious for you to please explain how my explanation for why "straight" men that deal with trans women are calling themselves bisexual is an any way applicable to fat, black, or ethnic, women as well....do you think I suspect men are calling themselves chubby chasers, or the like, or did the point of my post go totally over your head because of a grammatical error(yes "we must be in order to remain in order" is a mistake, forgive me)
Initial attraction starts from face/body not genetalia especially when most people are meeting through dating apps. Not all sex requires the person to even look and/or touch that persons genetalia.
Expressing a levelheaded critique and fair opinion isn't being triggered, sorry gas lighting doesn't work here. I simply critiqued your style of argument as a teacher would do to a 5th grade student (since that's where your grammar and punctuation level seems to be).
Your arguing point is that cis women extend womanhood to their trans counterparts but is denounced when it comes to sexual selectivity, due to a homoerotic aversion. My point is that this "aversion" can be applied to any type of women who doesn't fit the standard of any particular woman (ugly, fat, black, ethic, trans ect). I'm not sure you would understand this as you don't live within this group. My point was fairly straight forward.
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