Also referring to it as a "homoerotic aversion" is transphobia on their part despite your already spouting transphobic rhetoric.
Straight men identifying as bisexual because of trans attraction?
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Exactly. It seems that your sexuality really relates more to what someone looks like rather than what's between their legs. Like I said I consider myself 100% gay, I have 0% attraction to women, although I have found myself attracted to trans men who actually look like men. If a trans woman still looks feminine or displays feminine qualities I am not attracted whatsoever. It's quite interesting, but human sexuality really does seem to depend in femininity and masculinity in the physical form.
I agree so much with you. I find human sexuality fascinating, and I consider everyone who is off center to be a case study, but I can't deny the attempted inclusion of straight men into the LGBT community because of their trans women attraction irritates me. They treat trans women like a fetish, and not like human beings. Ultimately it seems most straight men will choose normality, family, children over their sexual desires, but as far as I'm concerned they need to just pick a side, I don't want them to have their cake and eat it too. Petty, petty violentrainbow, but I won't lie, I don't like straight men getting everything they want.
Id argue the effect is no where near as pronounced as it is with trans women...ill concede that women often start enforcing acceptable male sexual choices in concert with homogeny, but I'd also argue from a primal level even if the cis woman is ugly, fat, black, ethnic, etc., there's still going to be pre selective attraction for the male that scored that partner. It is a very common experience for young men to not get any attention from young women until after they've actually achieved getting a relationship. My argument is that trans women do not trigger that preselective instinct in women , and men are aware and act accordingly.
And I wasn't necessarily being transphobic, I was operating off of the prior descriptor, which I believe is generally true; despite the social and ideological extension of womanhood to trans women, most cis women(interested in straight men) are going to look at any of a man's sexual experiences in dealing with a penis that is not his own and label it as homoerotic no matter the chosen gender of the penis's owner.
To me, a transwomen with a cock is still a woman.....she looks, thinks, acts, smells and tastes like a woman to me.....nothing sexier than watching a transwoman undress in front of you, and seeing a nice cock flop out as she pulls her panties down.....
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Smells and taste? Never had a cock that tasted like a pussy, and certainly not smell like one, trans or not.
I get your point and don't disagree that there is a difference in smell and taste between a penis and vagina. But I also think you would agree that in general, men and women do smell different. The trans women I have been with certainly smelled different, and when we kissed, sucked on her breasts, 69, rimmed each other, the taste for me was also different than a "man." This has been my experience. Perhaps your experience has been different. Its all good.
This doesn't address passable ts women who live in stealth where other women or even their straight male sexual partners don't know they are ts or those who have had corrective surgeries. Also not all sexual activities need to be publicly broadcast. Not a single human is thinking about this stuff, especially when a male is thinking with this dick and wants to get off, nice effort tho lmao
As I said if you or anyone else thinks their is a homoeroticism to a male being with a ts women (even though not all sexual interactions involve seeing or using said genetalia) that is not only using the word wrong but infact transphobic.
What's not addressed? A passable trans woman is going to trigger pre selective instinct in cis women until they are aware she is trans. Knowledge of prior events or status tends to have a deleterious effect on either genders sexual assessment of the other in lots of ways.
And as I said the descriptor of homoeroticsm stems more from cis women in general in their assessment of trans attracted straight men, then in any label I do or do not assign. Id even further argue my or any other mans opinion or assessment of a trans attracted man is ultimately irrelevant and moot in the face of cis women's collective preferences.
Id love to simply say, "trans or cis, a man sexually dealing with a woman is inherently heterosexual" but I'm not going to lie and say cis women in general are going to respond in the same way towards a man that dates transwomen as opposed to exclusively cis women
Like I said, this is complicated stuff.
But I have zero attraction to transwomen (like ZERO).
Straight men who like transwomen are displaying some degree of bisexuality because they're showing attraction to male genitalia. 100% straight men never want to play or interact with another cock except his own.
As I said, most men are varying degrees of bisexuality. That said, there are very, very gay men and very, very straight men. I believe there are more 100% gay men than 100% straight men. It's hard to repulsed by the ideal of the organ and body you have (reflections of other men).
But I have zero attraction to transwomen (like ZERO).
Straight men who like transwomen are displaying some degree of bisexuality because they're showing attraction to male genitalia. 100% straight men never want to play or interact with another cock except his own.
As I said, most men are varying degrees of bisexuality. That said, there are very, very gay men and very, very straight men. I believe there are more 100% gay men than 100% straight men. It's hard to repulsed by the ideal of the organ and body you have (reflections of other men).
Exactly, if most gay men are unattracted to trans women (as you said) then how is any bisexuality implied? As I've already mentioned, not all sex requires to look/touch genitals. If countless straight men say they only like women (whether they're ts or not) then why don't they like men if they are bisexual especially if this is all on the basis on penis or vagina according to you? You don't get brownie points for being a gold star gay. Your rhetoric already shows you're transphobic therefore your opinion is invalid, I can already tell you're a fat older gay.
I am a passing post op trans woman and I have slept with several heterosexual men who did not know I am trans, my current boyfriend does not know either (not yet).
This is PRECISELY why some trans end up as victims of violence, including death. Fact.
Everyone deserves clarity and honesty up front. You should be ashamed of yourself. I will not budge on this!
Are you seriously victim blaming? If a woman gets killed for hitchhiking or raped for wearing skimpy clothes do you victim blame her as well? Shame on you. He is not the first partner I have done this with and it paid off because I do not date violent animals.
Stop with your pop-psychology bullshit. I'm not talking about blame, I'm talking about the injured or dead women. Dead is dead! You may not like a world were skimpy clothing or lying trans might lead to violence, but that doesn't change the course of reality. Are you more concerned about keeping women alive, or stealth-fucking hetero men? Never mind, I already know the answer.
This is where I am but the other way around. I am straight (I have 1% on my profile as I would be open to wanking with another guy but don't actually have any attraction to men) and I like cis women and am obsessed with licking pussy, but I have been with two trans women and enjoyed sucking them and was attracted to their penises. In all honestly I was a bit nervous the first time, thinking it might be a mistake and I wouldn't like it but I started giving her a massage and it felt no different to massaging a cis woman so from then on loved it. I'm attracted to the femininity, masculinity does nothing for me. People seem to get very upset and argumentative about this subject and would say I'm gay or must define me with a label but really I just like females and if they have a penis then I suck it, if they have a vagina I lick it.
I don't know what that makes me and I'm not really bothered, I like what I like
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