Theres No Gold Star Gay Men In Gay Porn Anymore. The Rise Of Sexual Fluidity.

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[thedudesterx69]

https://x.com/timtales_com/status/1895854001456861258

That’s so sad, I loved watching him.

 

[Kanthus]

It reeks of “I’ve got some str8 and bi porn that I want to release and I’m fearful of the backlash. So I’m spewing a rant to glaze over things.” It’s like a precursor to what’s to cum and like stated earlier from @thedudesterx69 it’s okay to experiment but the constant posting about wanting to film with vaginas and kissing girls and being attracted to girls means one thing and one thing only, YOU’RE NOT GAY, YOU’RE BI. It’s not rocket science.

I feel like they think calling themselves bisexual is going to be a curse. But like Sharok said in his rant, it’s all about money and the truth of the matter is that these men don’t want to admit that they like vaginas and are bi because of the hit in their income when the true gay following gives the backlash and starts unfollowing and unsubscribing. They loose those gay dollars and they are worried as fuck about that loss.

We’ve seen times and times again when these so called “gay” porn guys do some sort of str8, bi or trans porn and then they get hit with the backlash. They end up declining in their viewership and get no future projects because of their lack in popularity. Drew Dixon is one that comes to mind. He did this whole expose with HimerosTV (that buffoonery) about how gay he was and how he wasn’t accepted because of his flamboyant personality. How he would never touch a woman cause he is strictly dickly. Fast forward a few months later and he’s actively doing two str8 porn scenes and a bi orgy for a homophobic director.

He did what they all do, parade about their homosexuality, depict something that’s quite contrary and then go on a rant trying to defend their choices. They’re right, they have a choice as to what they do and we have a choice as well. If we want to voice our opinions in disgust they need to accept that. If we want to allocate our coins to honest creators than we can. Actions have consequences. If you were transparent form the get go, there would be no reason for the backlash. But one thing the gays hate, that’s being played for a fool and gaslighted in the process. There’s one thing these guys hate more and that’s people waking up to the nonsense.

The crazy thing is that these men could easily keep their trysts with women as part of their personal lives, but their hystionic need for attention leads them to divulge these things publicly and when the backlash comes, they invariably overreact because they feel that their gay audience owes them blind admiration. Also, for people who claim to be exceptionally enlightened in everything related to sexuality, it's pretty shocking how misinformed they appear to be about what sexual orientation entails.

Many of them appear to think that "Gay" is a social identity label, and believe that as long as they mostly hang out with other self-identified gay men, enjoy clubbing, are promiscuous and do not seek to have long term relationships with women, they they must perforce be it. If you combine this with the arrogance that comes with being "celebrities" in the gay community, the compulsion of having sex because they are addicts and the expectation of seeing their own beliefs validated because of their "status", we have a bad combination.

As for Sharok, he needs to like, you know, try to like, work hard so he can improve his vocabulary so he can like, stop sounding like a 14-year-old mean girl? Like, yeah. And if like, he's so unconcerned about those annoying "gay purists", why bother making a video like, denouncing them, you know? Like, follow your own advice and like, stop whining because people like, don't give you the reaction that you like, desire? It's like, you shouldn't expect others to like, feel obliged to agree with you while you like, tell them that their opinion doesn't matter and you don't have the obligation to agree with them? Can he like, see the lack of congruence in his speech? He should. Like, totally?

 

[thedudesterx69]

The crazy thing is that these men could easily keep their trysts with women as part of their personal lives, but their hystionic need for attention leads them to divulge these things publicly and when the backlash comes, they invariably overreact because they feel that their gay audience owes them blind admiration. Also, for people who claim to be exceptionally enlightened in everything related to sexuality, it's pretty shocking how misinformed they appear to be about what sexual orientation entails.

Many of them appear to think that "Gay" is a social identity label, and believe that as long as they mostly hang out with other self-identified gay men, enjoy clubbing, are promiscuous and do not seek to have long term relationships with women, they they must perforce be it. If you combine this with the arrogance that comes with being "celebrities" in the gay community, the compulsion of having sex because they are addicts and the expectation of seeing their own beliefs validated because of their "status", we have a bad combination.

As for Sharok, he needs to like, you know, try to like, work hard so he can improve his vocabulary so he can like, stop sounding like a 14-year-old mean girl? Like, yeah. And if like, he's so unconcerned about those annoying "gay purists", why bother making a video like, denouncing them, you know? Like, follow your own advice and like, stop whining because people like, don't give you the reaction that you like, desire? It's like, you shouldn't expect others to like, feel obliged to agree with you while you like, tell them that their opinion doesn't matter and you don't have the obligation to agree with them? Can he like, see the lack of congruence in his speech? He should. Like, totally?

Yes!

They need to stop trying to sell sex to gay men. You can’t have sex with women every blue moon and be gay.

You can’t put your dick inside a vagina and call it gay just because the person identifies as a man either.

 

[Kvc13]

I guess tim tales was 1 of those gays" gay in street and bi on the sheets"

 

[Rizvankhan69]

Although what happened was kinda tragic. But he will be remembered as a "proudly gay man" who enjoy pussy. Sadly.

I guess tim tales was 1 of those gays" gay in street and bi on the sheets"

 

[Kvc13]

Although what happened was kinda tragic. But he will be remembered as a "proudly gay man" who enjoy pussy. Sadly.

Ofc is sad,,I don't wish death on Noone,, and I truly believed he was gay,,till he went full on vagina,,so I guess this industry is a total lie and with no gay men in it,,as they said" the worst comes from those inside your circle"

 

[Outrun97]

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He was just another of these "progressive gay men" who fucked mascoline women. He ruined his iconic site with that disgusting scene. RIP

 

[BIGBULL29]

Bi men have ruined gay porn along with the pick me gays!

It’s insane how straight sex is put on a pedestal in the gay community. I don’t think I’ve heard straight men speak so passionately about fucking pussy before!

They always say “it’s my personal life” “why do you care?”

You guys are sharing this content with gay men! They lied to their followers and decided to advertise things they find disgusting.

It’s like going to see a movie about a gay couple and one guy leaves for a woman.

I thought I was watching a gay movie? It’s a lie and tricked the viewers.

Gay men want to support gay content creators. The same way we support gay actors and musicians. I would support bi ones too. It’s the fact that they lied.

All these men have coming out stories about being gay and how their parents didn’t accept them. Now we’re finding out these men are liars and would rather be with women.

How are we supposed to pretend a man didn’t promote straight sex to us?

I hate when I talk to men and the being up straight sex. I don’t want to talk about women, you can be bi but you’re gay when you’re with me. That means no talking about women! If you want to discuss fucking pussy go find about bi guy and don’t pressure gay men to like it.

Some of the issue is because of the strong presence of FTMs. Many gay men in the past never had a chance to get their dicks wet in pussy. But, because of the popularity of FTMs, many gay men are experimenting with pussy penetration, which makes them more likely to try a regular woman in porn.

We like to put people in categories -- it's our nature. But sometimes we act outside of what people think is normal for us. "Once gay, always gay" mentality still thrives. But we know that our sexualities can evolve over time.

Kyle Mason was about as gay as gay can get in gay porn, and now he's inside pussy all the time for the past several years. He made the switch. I cannot say that Kyle doesn't like pussy --- he clearly does. Is he still bi? Yes, most likely. LOL.

It's all confusing, but human emotions are complex for sure. "Some" gay men are having sex with women as a part of some "trend", which is silly, considering they have no real desire in the first place. It's just peer pressure. It's sad but we let ourselves get bullied and coaxed by our communties.

 

[Smallteaplant]

Some of the issue is because of the strong presence of FTMs. Many gay men in the past never had a chance to get their dicks wet in pussy. But, because of the popularity of FTMs, many gay men are experimenting with pussy penetration, which makes them more likely to try a regular woman in porn.

We like to put people in categories -- it's our nature. But sometimes we act outside of what people think is normal for us. "Once gay, always gay" mentality still thrives. But we know that our sexualities can evolve over time.

Kyle Mason was about as gay as gay can get in gay porn, and now he's inside pussy all the time for the past several years. He made the switch. I cannot say that Kyle doesn't like pussy --- he clearly does. Is he still bi? Yes, most likely. LOL.

It's all confusing, but human emotions are complex for sure. "Some" gay men are having sex with women as a part of some "trend", which is silly, considering they have no real desire in the first place. It's just peer pressure. It's sad but we let ourselves get bullied and coaxed by our communties.

You're more sexually liberal. However, the reason that many gay men are upset is that it leads to broader social and political implications. If self-identified "gay" are having sex with females then it leads to the questioning of gay rights. If homosexuality appears to be a behavior that people choose then should the government and society honor the right of those who participate in non-hetero lifestyles?

You'll probably say that you don't care or that people should have rights naturally. Recent events illustrated that rights are a polite fiction the government recognizes. If the government can strip away the status of trans people then they could do the same with any other group.

Link to my thread for anyone interested.
For the people who are against gay4pay

 

[nhguy78]

Some of the issue is because of the strong presence of FTMs. Many gay men in the past never had a chance to get their dicks wet in pussy. But, because of the popularity of FTMs, many gay men are experimenting with pussy penetration, which makes them more likely to try a regular woman in porn.

We like to put people in categories -- it's our nature. But sometimes we act outside of what people think is normal for us. "Once gay, always gay" mentality still thrives. But we know that our sexualities can evolve over time.

Kyle Mason was about as gay as gay can get in gay porn, and now he's inside pussy all the time for the past several years. He made the switch. I cannot say that Kyle doesn't like pussy --- he clearly does. Is he still bi? Yes, most likely. LOL.

It's all confusing, but human emotions are complex for sure. "Some" gay men are having sex with women as a part of some "trend", which is silly, considering they have no real desire in the first place. It's just peer pressure. It's sad but we let ourselves get bullied and coaxed by our communties.

Sometimes, I think we need to re-learn what makes someone gay or not or whatever. It's not that we like sex of a particular type/position. It's what attracts is and how that attraction plays out. If we find someone to be appealing enough that we absolutely desire sexual activity with that person then that defines our sexual orientation.

What if .....

What if that attraction isn't sexual but we are so horny that any hole or pole would do? What if it's curiosity and we find that the sex is good? Does that suddenly change our sexual orientation? We like a particular sex and to some that is the end all of the question of sexual orientation.

What if I do not find anyone sexually attractive yet if I was blindfolded I could absolutely fuck any consenting adult that presents? Does that make me pansexual because of that preference or lack thereof for hole type?

 

[thedudesterx69]

Some of the issue is because of the strong presence of FTMs. Many gay men in the past never had a chance to get their dicks wet in pussy. But, because of the popularity of FTMs, many gay men are experimenting with pussy penetration, which makes them more likely to try a regular woman in porn.

We like to put people in categories -- it's our nature. But sometimes we act outside of what people think is normal for us. "Once gay, always gay" mentality still thrives. But we know that our sexualities can evolve over time.

Kyle Mason was about as gay as gay can get in gay porn, and now he's inside pussy all the time for the past several years. He made the switch. I cannot say that Kyle doesn't like pussy --- he clearly does. Is he still bi? Yes, most likely. LOL.

It's all confusing, but human emotions are complex for sure. "Some" gay men are having sex with women as a part of some "trend", which is silly, considering they have no real desire in the first place. It's just peer pressure. It's sad but we let ourselves get bullied and coaxed by our communties.

I’ll always be gay. No matter how good a dick feels inside a pussy it doesn’t excite me.

I’m not aroused by penises but it’s required for me to have sex with someone.

Even if someone looked like a man besides the genitals it still doesn’t change the fact that men have penises.

I love men and I don’t need to “evolve”

Trying to get people to have sex with you is wrong! Calling someone transphobic and misogynistic for not liking vaginas is homophobic and it needs to stop.

Calling yourself gay means that you realized you don’t like women. I don’t see how you can not know what you like.

Especially men that are adults.

 

[Kanthus]

Some of the issue is because of the strong presence of FTMs. Many gay men in the past never had a chance to get their dicks wet in pussy. But, because of the popularity of FTMs, many gay men are experimenting with pussy penetration, which makes them more likely to try a regular woman in porn.

We like to put people in categories -- it's our nature. But sometimes we act outside of what people think is normal for us. "Once gay, always gay" mentality still thrives. But we know that our sexualities can evolve over time.

Kyle Mason was about as gay as gay can get in gay porn, and now he's inside pussy all the time for the past several years. He made the switch. I cannot say that Kyle doesn't like pussy --- he clearly does. Is he still bi? Yes, most likely. LOL.

It's all confusing, but human emotions are complex for sure. "Some" gay men are having sex with women as a part of some "trend", which is silly, considering they have no real desire in the first place. It's just peer pressure. It's sad but we let ourselves get bullied and coaxed by our communties.

Oh, come on! You cannot say that some random mostly-straight bisexual man like Kyle Mason suddenly became fully straight because of FTM trans performers. Several straight porn performers (Jeremy Bilding, Christian XXX, Danny D, Jay Huntington, etc) started in gay porn because it pays better and they saw no other way to enter the porn industry. Then, they made contacts and were well liked enough to be allowed to cross over. It's evident that they were never fully straight in the first place, but they're DEFINITELY not gay and they left the gay side of the industry as soon as they could.

Likewise, the so-called S4P conversion therapy promoters are bisexual, even if they prefer men and decide to erroneously label themselves as gay. The fact that they've tried to ease their way into the straight side by way of FTM porn, is an entirely different matter altogether. They are not gay and they never were in the first place, just as the so-called G4Pers are not really straight. Trans people don't have the magical ability to change anyone's sexual orientation.

 

[thedudesterx69]

There’s nothing progressive about telling people to be open minded about sex. Many people know what they like. I have a dick and only like people with one. If you don’t have one, we can’t have sex.

Sexuality discriminates. It’s not confusing for everyone. Don’t try to confuse other people if you’re calling yourself gay but like vaginas.

This isn’t happening to straight people. It’s a push on gays and lesbians. Not 1 straight person would tell another “straight” person they’re still straight while having gay sex!

Straight men don’t have mtf in their porn. They don’t like dicks and you can’t change that. Me not having a vagina disqualifies me from their attraction. That’s fine. I’m not going to tell them that they have to date me.

When we call out men for having straight sex it’s because being gay is set and stone. If you’re not 100% sure you only like men don’t call yourself gay. Labels have meaning and they matter!

Straight is the default for most people and that’s why it’s different. Comparing straight people to gay people is unbelievably idiotic.

 

[M415m]

I don’t understand the point of this thread as it somewhat implies it’s a new trend. Gay 4 pay has been old as the internet I’m sure. Not sure why one would think it’s out of the ordinary.

 

[thedudesterx69]

He was just another of these "progressive gay men" who fucked mascoline women. He ruined his iconic site with that disgusting scene. RIP

I miss him but he really shouldn’t have promoted straight sex on his website. If you like that, don’t show it to gay men!

 

[BIGBULL29]

You're more sexually liberal. However, the reason that many gay men are upset is that it leads to broader social and political implications. If self-identified "gay" are having sex with females then it leads to the questioning of gay rights. If homosexuality appears to be a behavior that people choose then should the government and society honor the right of those who participate in non-hetero lifestyles?

You'll probably say that you don't care or that people should have rights naturally. Recent events illustrated that rights are a polite fiction the government recognizes. If the government can strip away the status of trans people then they could do the same with any other group.

Link to my thread for anyone interested.
For the people who are against gay4pay

I totally get your point of view --- I really do. It's complicated, for sure.

 

[BIGBULL29]

I’ll always be gay. No matter how good a dick feels inside a pussy it doesn’t excite me.

I’m not aroused by penises but it’s required for me to have sex with someone.

Even if someone looked like a man besides the genitals it still doesn’t change the fact that men have penises.

I love men and I don’t need to “evolve”

Trying to get people to have sex with you is wrong! Calling someone transphobic and misogynistic for not liking vaginas is homophobic and it needs to stop.

Calling yourself gay means that you realized you don’t like women. I don’t see how you can not know what you like.

Especially men that are adults.

Again, I understand your point of view. But for some men, they aren't as gay as you, or their sexuality evolves over time. That's not going to be the case with you. That's fine. Many gay men are just like you in that regard.

I totally understand your point of view.

Peace.

 

[BIGBULL29]

Sometimes, I think we need to re-learn what makes someone gay or not or whatever. It's not that we like sex of a particular type/position. It's what attracts is and how that attraction plays out. If we find someone to be appealing enough that we absolutely desire sexual activity with that person then that defines our sexual orientation.

What if .....

What if that attraction isn't sexual but we are so horny that any hole or pole would do? What if it's curiosity and we find that the sex is good? Does that suddenly change our sexual orientation? We like a particular sex and to some that is the end all of the question of sexual orientation.

What if I do not find anyone sexually attractive yet if I was blindfolded I could absolutely fuck any consenting adult that presents? Does that make me pansexual because of that preference or lack thereof for hole type?

Excellent points, buddy! I get you 100%.

For me, I never understand why I like to watch overweight women have sex with each other. I get rock hard from that at times. I also jack to some male strippers. But, I'm not 100% gay man like some are. And I respect men are very, very gay. It's all so confusing. We're all different in our sexualities.

I understand the gay rights movement, etc. If men are experimenting with pussy with FTMs and real women in porn, then... I get all that.

I don't want to judge anyone. That's not my point.

I don't control what makes my penis get erect, and neither do any of you boys.

Peace and understanding to you all.

 

[BIGBULL29]

Oh, come on! You cannot say that some random mostly-straight bisexual man like Kyle Mason suddenly became fully straight because of FTM trans performers. Several straight porn performers (Jeremy Bilding, Christian XXX, Danny D, Jay Huntington, etc) started in gay porn because it pays better and they saw no other way to enter the porn industry. Then, they made contacts and were well liked enough to be allowed to cross over. It's evident that they were never fully straight in the first place, but they're DEFINITELY not gay and they left the gay side of the industry as soon as they could.

Likewise, the so-called S4P conversion therapy promoters are bisexual, even if they prefer men and decide to erroneously label themselves as gay. The fact that they've tried to ease their way into the straight side by way of FTM porn, is an entirely different matter altogether. They are not gay and they never were in the first place, just as the so-called G4Pers are not really straight. Trans people don't have the magical ability to change anyone's sexual orientation.

I don't disagree with you.

I think you misunderstood what I saying: some men discover that they like pussy later on. They didn't become bisexual -- they most likely always were. There is a trend for gay men to try pussy, which is ridiculous, if they have zero interest in the first place (I already said that).

I, also, agree with your comments on conversion therapy.

There are cases where a man's sexualities evolves over time, but it's more than likely there was always a bisexual seed already planted somewhere. I don't know...

Take care.