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Moira777 said:
So y’all gonna keep posting the pier group nude photo over and over and over and over…on the same chain…and over like numbskulls…but not Jeff Thomas? Ok…
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I don't think asking for a favor and then calling people numbskulls is the right play here. If you want those nudes so bad buy the magazine, you're not entitled to freebies.
 
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PDBG said:
The recent discussion I've been reading here has been rather interesting.

If anything, one thing it confirms is that, even for people not in the business, an Insta model won't ever be on a par with a model signed by a big agency - i.e. a legit or top model. It seems like that, in the end, people want to see whoever was chosen or whoever was pointed out as having "it" instead of people that decided they wanted to post nice pics of themselves.

Insta models were great to shake the industry, to show different beauty standards and body types. Some made the jump and got signed up by big agencies, and got big contracts, etc. But I still see people thinking that models that went the conventional route (casting calls, applications, etc.) are still the ones deemed interesting and worthy of a career. Are we still wanting that a select group of people, or the status quo, keeps on dictating who we should pay attention to or not? I personally don't have a problem with Insta models because if they've found a following, it's because they got something and people were able to spot that extra.

The problem begins - I believe - when Insta models confuse modeling with exhibition and that's when OF enters the equation. Overall the problem with OF is quality. As hot as someone can be, holding up your phone and pointing the camera at yourself, or your reflection in the mirror, won't ever have the same mystique as having something professionally produced. Production values after all is a great deal of turning a photo session into something memorable. A female pornstar once said that the difference between a quality photoshoot and porn is lighting. She's dead on right.

Also, pornography has long pushed the bar: back when they had the budget for production, they often mimicked mainstream products like certain blockbuster movie scenes and fashion ads (Calvin Klein models, Abercrombie style, etc.), and gave people a view of what it'd look like if mainstream went the "prohibited" porn route. So the bar has also been pushed for people producing mainstream products when it comes to sexy ads because they can't verge on pornography and have to keep on reinventing, or face the risk of doing something that someone has already done before.

The people behind Yummy are brave for investing in a magazine in the age of digital mags and so many big titles disappearing form newsstands. But I see that unless they have say, a special edition featuring pornstars and OF guys only, they should not put a lot of focus on them, give them a cover, or feature them at all. Their niche audience want big names and if it's a new face, he better not have shot amateur nude content before.
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Agreed.
Models are a dime-a-dozen. I keep property in Manhattan and all the waiters at the restaurant that I frequent often are models. And the private dinner parties that I attend are mostly waited by male models. They are are attractive; Very attractive, in most cases, with the girls have faces and bodies worthy of Victoria Secret Contracts: Beautiful, perfect skin, thin, but sinewy and curvy. The male model/server are even more attractive …… However, a Top Model are only the ones who has managed creating a brand for themselves: They are known for their name, sometimes even more than what they sell. Gigi Hadid and Isabela Fontana for example, are two of them. In the past we have the magnificent seven. And for the male models, they are considered top models when they have signed with at least one very established brand for a campaign (not just walk at a fashion show). Will Chalker, a veteran, is one of them. His latest work was in a campaign for Missoni. —— The pretty dudes who wait for me at parties - or entertain me privately when their rent is due - are simply what they are: Pretty Dudes. They are allowed to be included in this site, but please don’t confuse them with the Top Models, let alone the ‘Male Super Model’. —— And yes, Mr Chalker has juicy uncircumcised cock with delicious hairless low hanger……
 
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