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If you don t care is your issue, let people talk about whatever they want, if you are not happy here you can leave the thread. We do not need you.
This was already asked 10000 times and we go around in circles. It's for free? yes. It's for free? no. Who cares, that doesn't change the magazine. This thread is getting so boring with people like you in it.
 
if you think just because a person decided to do a nude shoot, it is a sign of failure or something that is pejorative or connotated as bad, maybe you shouldnt be on this thread. maybe you shouldnt be on this forum at all.
He is young, driven and bold and i admire his courage, i really like him as a model.
For your logic then giorgio, nacho penin, pietro, karl kugelmann, tobias reuter, elia, alessio and all other models who participated on this project and did big campains after also failed.
I agree by that logic anyone imfluencer that starts an onlyfans would be a failure.
 
I agree by that logic anyone imfluencer that starts an onlyfans would be a failure.
I think some people here are more conservative and see nudity as something obscure and wrong. If you show yourself naked, your not worth of being a respectable person.
 
I think some people here are more conservative and see nudity as something obscure and wrong. If you show yourself naked, your not worth of being a respectable person.
I don't think doing ~classy~ and ~artistic~ nudes is a problem (like Melania Trump or Carli Bruni etc.). But doing 'cheap' porn is generally frowned upon, which is why many people try to hide their porn past.
 
by that logic anyone imfluencer that starts an onlyfans would be a failure.

Well it depends on what you mean by failure. We're talking about models here. Random instagram thots are making crazy bank on OF, but the truth is almost any legitimate male model will get instantly dropped by their agency if they find out they started an onlyfans... So having an Onlyfans IS in fact looked at within the industry as a career failure / limitation. There are a few examples of adult performers that have managed mainstream careers (Hoyt Kogan comes to mind) but they are VERY few & far between... and they usually have had to sleep with either Jeremy Scott or the DSquared twins to get there.
 
The reverse to all this conversation is the possibility that full frontal nudity can also help make your career: it felt like David Gandy, Andrew Velencoso and Jarrod Scott's careers all exploded after they published full frontals. Granted they were all in 'respectable' fashion venues: Gandy in his calendar from D&G, Velencoso and Scott in european fashion mags. I theorized that made the photogs and editors wanted to hire them becaue it fueled their own fantasies, but that's just my theory.

I think Yummy was/is kind of an extension of that idea: high end fashion photography featuring fashion models, but with full nudity. Although we're in an unprecendented time where full male nudity is gaining even more traction, and I suppose it's harder to make an impression in a time rife with OF accounts.
 
I don't think doing ~classy~ and ~artistic~ nudes is a problem (like Melania Trump or Carli Bruni etc.). But doing 'cheap' porn is generally frowned upon, which is why many people try to hide their porn past.
I was talking in the context of this thread/magazine which i think its tasteful even if more revealing. People get shocked: omg a penis, omg a body. Not worth it anymore of being a respectful and decent human...
 
Well it depends on what you mean by failure. We're talking about models here. Random instagram thots are making crazy bank on OF, but the truth is almost any legitimate male model will get instantly dropped by their agency if they find out they started an onlyfans... So having an Onlyfans IS in fact looked at within the industry as a career failure / limitation. There are a few examples of adult performers that have managed mainstream careers (Hoyt Kogan comes to mind) but they are VERY few & far between... and they usually have had to sleep with either Jeremy Scott or the DSquared twins to get there.
What about Michael Yerger? He does a lot of big campaigns and has onlyfans!
 
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You are probably American. The magazine is not considered prestigious in the US because everything involving nudity in the US is not prestigious at all. Making guns legal everywhere and banning abortion rights is far way better. In Europe it is quite the opposite and that is not the reality at all. Most of these models you have been seeing the past few days are indeed from good agencies.

Regarding payments and who receives what I don't know everything but so far my information can be as valid as yours.
Well that was a tangent.
 
at some point it is useless to keep trying to explain it lol let them believe the models get showered with money. it's wrong, it's not right but that's how it's always been in this industry.
Charlie Matthews turned down Yummy because they would not pay. This is why he and so many others are on onlyfans. They can actually make money.
 
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Charlie Matthews turned down Yummy because they would not pay. This is why he and so many others are on onlyfans. They can actually make money.
Therefore he is shooting with a lot of photographers for free doing full frontal nudity like the coitus magazine guy. That story doesn't add up.