Loneliness

I agree. I have cut off contact with many people like you described above. I felt embarrassed to be in their company.

I too have ended friendships with people who mistreat me or attempt to abuse our friendship. I'm a given person, but I'm not an enabler - and now refuse to help others who aren't will to put forth the effort to help themselves and improve their own existence.


I can empathize with you there. My job requires me to deal with a lot of difficult people (including my co-workers). I used to feel the same as you, but found that I was only hurting myself by cutting myself off from everyone. I learned quickly to leave work at work, and to not socialize with my co-workers at all. I don't even want to be in the same office with them (thankfully at my job I can spend as little time in there as I want), so why would I want to socialize with them outside of work? By "compartmentalizing" people (for lack of a better term), I found that I became interested again in creating social bonds with people. My co-workers are just people I work with (not my friends), and the people I teach are nothing more than a paycheque to me. The people I choose to spend time with are friends. I refuse to waste a second of my personal time on anyone that I don't like.

As I stated in my original post, there are perhaps 5 people at most that I would consider socializing outside of work - the rest I do my best to keep at arms length and answer their questions about me, my weekends, or x-mas holidays as generic as possible. I work in a "yenta" central environment and I listen to the gossip that goes on around me and do my best to keep my head under radar, so as to avoid becoming a topic of discussion. As far as meeting people, I relocated to my current city 6 months ago, and attended a few of the "meet-up" meetings and found it difficult to establish friendships or acquaintence-ships, as it was rather clique-ish; I don't do cliques, never had, never will, no interest. So, I have made attempts to make friends. I do know most of my neighbors in immediate location of my apartment, and socialize with a few. However, I'm also respectful of another's personal space and don't wish to intrude on their personal space, as well I utilize my time to decompress and recharge.:redface:

Yes! The "me first" mentality (as I like to call it) drives me insane! I love giving these kids a very badly needed reality check at work. They may be mommy & daddy's little princess/prince, but they sure as hell aren't mine! :tongue:

Unfortnately, I can't give the developmentally "gifted" individuals with whom I encounter on a daily bases a reality check, as I'm in customer service its expected that I sit there with a smile on my face and voice and patiently navigate the call to ensure explorary service. Personally there are those who shouldnt be allowed outside without someone following them with an electric cattle prod to "zap" them when they are about to do or say something rude, inconsiderate or inappropriate.:biggrin1::biggrin1:

I'm not gay, so I can't comment here. It's quite interesting to know though that gay people go through the same shit that straight people do. I'm very thankful for my marriage. At my age (45), I just don't have the energy to be out on the market again. The more people I meet, the more I love my 2 dogs!

I'm not in a relationship, and as I stated I'm approach what is viewed in the gay community undesirable age group, and haven't found many men out there who have their "shuns" - education, transportation, habitation, occupation, no addictions, probation or convictions. Masturbation is the only acceptable "shun". With that said, it definitely narrows the dating pool, for which I would consider dipping my toe in. I'd rather single and alone, that in a relationship, miserable and lonely. I'm a romantic at heart, but as I stated in my previous post, guys like me are hanging out at home, (and aren't out trolling on Craigslist, hanging out at the bars, or cruising parks). I want to know the head on the guy's shoulder first, than the one in his pants. The one on his shoulders tells me about his character, his dreams, his aspirations, the one in his pants just tells me how he made out in the gene pool. I think too many of us, myself included, has made the mistake by jumping in the sack with someone only to find that there aren't any similarities and once the sexual spark has waned, the "relationship" ends, as there was no solid foundation established to sustain and support it.

Great post! :cool:

Contributing another two-cents - Kiltiesf
 
I have lived my life alone. Being gay, and having parents who did not show affection were two of the reasons. It hasn't been a bad life. I've had friends and some small rewards from my career, so it hasn't been a total waste. But no one really knows me, and no one ever will.
 
I've nearly always been alone, but not til recently really started to feel lonely. Its only been in the last few years that someone has been attracted to me but due to complications in life, like living in different cities, I only get to see him a handful of times in a year. The rest of the time, I am alone and never more lonely then after he leaves to go to his home. This year we might, just might, have the chance to have a closer relationship and I couldn't want anything more at this stage of my life. Of that, I'm very excited.

When he does leave, i nearly always get a crushing empty feeling and spend a couple of hours crying. I get so use to being alone, as its always been, that to have someone there, next to you everywhere for a few days to then be suddenly gone and be alone again, is so painful.

I have friends, but not close male friends, which I really really want some times. I use to as a much younger guy, but they move on, get married, we drifted apart or fell out, have kids and the need for a close male pack just isn't a priority for them in their lives. More than once I've felt abandoned and resentful of their women as a result. Yet only ever treated as being odd for not doing the same.

I miss having a close male pack of friends and get very jealous when I see guys like rugby team mates, their instinctual bromances or something. A masculine fraternity of some sort, would be fucking awesome, but as I've said before, I'm not straight and am not often accept long term by straight men. I get slightly submissive towards them and the absence of a girlfriend tends to make them suspicious and uncomfortable, even though I just want man friends.

I think, it's a lucky few gay men who have a close pack of mates.

I miss some old friends, sometimes every day.
 
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I think this is one of the best threads I've read in a long time. Thanks to everyone who has contributed to it, some really interesting experiences on here.
 
I'm lonely most times. I sometimes want to meet new people, and have conversations, but on the other hand I'm shy, and don't really communicate well. I never had tons of friends, and when I moved away for school I never really made many new ones. Part of the reason I'm so shy is because of the bullying I've endured, I tend to think most people don't like me, then I start thinking that they whisper crap about me. I wish I could just get over all of this insecurity crap because I'd love to have friends, and a relationship, but atm it's not happening.

Hell, I'm 51 and still feel the exact same way you do. Some of us just never get over it, I suppose. The way I look at it, no one else has dibs on my time. I come and go as I please with no one else's expectations to deter me. I have very few friends, and most of them are friends who live in other states where I used to live, and the friendship is mostly by phone. The friends that are close by are all married, and I am separated, so I do not get to spend much time with them because of marital commitments.

It's been a very lonely holiday season this year, the first time in my 51 years I'll spend Christmas and New Years alone. But I'll survive just fine, thanks. Got my booze and cigars, and lots of good books to read. :wink:
 
I think, it's a lucky few gay men who have a close pack of mates. I miss some old friends, sometimes every day.

best thing you can do, man, is to make that community of mates no matter where you can find it. as much as i despise facebook and crap like that, sometimes a site like this one lets you connect to people. forget dicks for a minute; remember that people you really connect to here ARE as good as friends in the real world. honor them as such.

it's true though. i think prospects get shitty for most of the general population after the early 20s are over. lived it myself, and i've seen it too in friends that are in their mid-20s and thrown for a complete loop. marriage and professional employment make it harder, not easier, for men to keep and retain these connections in life. and guess what? it hurts us. all of us.

signed, a straight dude trying to find a bro pack as well and it ain't goin' as well as i would like, even when i live in a sizeable enough college town, so i'm stuck on some pen0r site wiggling my goods area in an attempt to find brotherhood.
 
Every year for the past 12 years, on this evening, I have felt very lonely. This year, I am content and maybe even happy to be alone. It was a rough 2012 on the dating front and I am glad it is behind me.
 
I have no issues being alone. I see as many or more issues in being in a relationship as I do with being single. I get so tired with the bickering and fighting at times. When I am alone, I do not have to deal with that. I have no sex now, I had more when I was single. As I get older, I am 50 this year, I see myself looking back at all the poor choices I have made and wondering why I felt the need to have to 'be' with anyone... I am not seeing it was worth all the heartache and lost income.
 
I have no issues being alone. I see as many or more issues in being in a relationship as I do with being single. I get so tired with the bickering and fighting at times. When I am alone, I do not have to deal with that. I have no sex now, I had more when I was single. As I get older, I am 50 this year, I see myself looking back at all the poor choices I have made and wondering why I felt the need to have to 'be' with anyone... I am not seeing it was worth all the heartache and lost income.

exactly
 
Does anyone know how lonely many married women are? Yes, marriage is ironically synonymous with loneliness.

Liberation comes in perpetual singlehood and celibacy. Embrace it! It's a beautiful lifestyle. The world tells us that marriage and children, or, singlehood with promiscuity (to a lesser degree), is the key to a good life. Do you know many who are happy in these lifestyles? I know none. But do continue to follow the world as she's sure to set you on the right path.:rolleyes:

(The older you get, the less you care what others think.)
 
I have no issues being alone. I see as many or more issues in being in a relationship as I do with being single. I get so tired with the bickering and fighting at times. When I am alone, I do not have to deal with that. I have no sex now, I had more when I was single. As I get older, I am 50 this year, I see myself looking back at all the poor choices I have made and wondering why I felt the need to have to 'be' with anyone... I am not seeing it was worth all the heartache and lost income.

:lmao: I feel you. I like being alone however being in a relationship would be nice, but instead I would just date casually with a few women so I wouldn't be lonely without any of the drama that comes with a "traditional" relationship. :cool:

Does anyone know how lonely many married women are? Yes, marriage is ironically synonymous with loneliness.

Liberation comes in perpetual singlehood and celibacy. Embrace it! It's a beautiful lifestyle. The world tells us that marriage and children, or, singlehood with promiscuity (to a lesser degree), is the key to a good life. Do you know many who are happy in these lifestyles? I know none. But do continue to follow the world as she's sure to set you on the right path.:rolleyes:

(The older you get, the less you care what others think.)

Sounds to me like all of those people married the wrong partners.
 
I agree with the statement about being solitary vs loneliness. While I was married for 18 years and have had roommates, I prefer living alone. I seriously enjoy my own company, and I always laugh out loud at things that I find humorous. I have many social interactions through work (I work for a school district) and have several friends that I hang with on a regular basis. I find myself to be confident, and self-reliant.

However, there are many times when I am watching a movie, or reading a good book, that I long for someone next to me. I love to cook, yet cooking is never much fun when cooking for one. Going for a walk is much more fun when there is someone with you. So, I think there is a trade off of sorts. The choice of living alone, and liking it versus being lonely. Simply put, I love my "me" time but I still feel so lonely at times that my heart aches for companionship, and/or a relationship. Is there a true balance between the two? Perhaps. I just haven't found it yet.