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[Ethyl]

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and every portrays an image of themselves, you know this ... everyone knows this

So if a woman wearing a Chanel suit, Christian Louboutin shoes, and Hermes clutch showed interest in you, you wouldn't think she was a slut?

 

[D_Rosalind Mussell]

I don't care for the sound of the word slut, nor the many associations it is casually applied toward.

I prefer sexual libertine. In a good sense.

I don't care for the word slut either, but sexual libertine rolls off the tongue wonderfully.

 

[D_Rosalind Mussell]

why doesn't it make sense to praise a woman for fucking whomever she wants, as long as she is safe (using protection when needed) and careful (not intentionally hurting anyone) and happy and satisfied and satisfying (to the extent she is capable)?

isn't that likely to make her the best lay you've ever had?

You just described my husband's outlook on the subject. Thank goodness for that or we wouldn't have gotten together.

 

[B_Bjen2848]

I am just loving how men think that a woman who has had, or currently has multiple bed partners = easy.

It apparently also means she doesn't care about herself, has low or no self esteem, doesn't keep herself well groomed, wears trashy clothes, probably can't keep a job...whatever.

I BEG TO DIFFER BOYS. And yes I call you boys, because the only man on this thread who's had anything worthwhile to say is Intrigue (thank you) and HappyBoi (love you too, precious!)

This is utter crap! This is the 21st century folks. Not the 14th. It's time to get your heads out of your ass and realize that women are powerful and strong and fully capable of being "STUDS" (or divas, goddesses, valkyries, what have you - I like goddess, myself) and infinitely MORE discerning in our bed mates than any male could EVER be!

Long live the goddess in all of us!

lol so someone only has anything worth while if they agree with you?

 

[Enid]

So if a woman wearing a Chanel suit, Christian Louboutin shoes, and Hermes clutch showed interest in you, you wouldn't think she was a slut?

I'm speculating this is exactly the case. A woman in Brooks Brothers, well-groomed, ohhhh nooo that woman would not be interpreted as a slut.

Even if she has had her fair share of of bed buddies.

 

[Ethyl]

If it's antiquated and deluded, why are people complaining about it in this thread as if it's still a problem today?

Because the double standard no longer makes sense for anyone.

And this is coming from someone whose best "lay" of my life came from a 24 year old who had already fucked over 60 guys in her life before I met her. With that said, even I can understand the appeal of a girl who had a few partners compared to a girl who has had a ton of partners.

So why did you allow that girl to even touch you if she's fucked that many guys? Not only did you contradict yourself, your actions clearly work against your own standards.

 

[D_Rosalind Mussell]

Interesting thing I came across that is on topic. If I lived in Vancouver I definitely would have done this.

Slutwalk Vancouver | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

 

[B_Bjen2848]

So if a woman wearing a Chanel suit, Christian Louboutin shoes, and Hermes clutch showed interest in you, you wouldn't think she was a slut?

being that i have no idea what any of those designers are and what they look like, i would have to reserve my judgement lol

but let me give you an example

if you see a guy with greesed spiked hair
a grotesque ed hardy shirt that is too small
true religion jeans with some ridiculous dragon design on the pockets
and cheesy tattoo's to cover his fake tan and roid zits

im pretty sure the first thing that would pop in your mind is "douchebag" .. right?

 

[Ethyl]

but let me give you an example

if you see a guy with greesed spiked hair
a grotesque ed hardy shirt that is too small
true religion jeans with some ridiculous dragon design on the pockets
and cheesy tattoo's to cover his fake tan and roid zits

im pretty sure the first thing that would pop in your mind is "douchebag" .. right?

No. That's not how I define douchebaggery. Not to mention I reserve judgment on people until I spend time with them. How they dress has little bearing on my opinion.

 

[The Dragon]

being that i have no idea what any of those designers are and what they look like, i would have to reserve my judgement lol

but let me give you an example

if you see a guy with greesed spiked hair
a grotesque ed hardy shirt that is too small
true religion jeans with some ridiculous dragon design on the pockets
and cheesy tattoo's to cover his fake tan and roid zits

im pretty sure the first thing that would pop in your mind is "douchebag" .. right?

Actually I read posts like yours (for instance) and the first thing that pops into my head is "Spends most Saturday nights alone, chronic porn addict with an almost full customer loyalty card from the nearest adult book store".

 

[Enid]

And this is coming from someone whose best "lay" of my life came from a 24 year old who had already fucked over 60 guys in her life before I met her.

Like Ethyl, I don't understand why you fucked her, then. If you think so little of her, why "stoop down" (so to speak) and sleep with her? Why judge a woman for having that many sex partners as damaged goods if you are willing to ride the hobby horse with such an individual? Wouldn't you be opening yourself up to the same kind of judgment you pass on her? Wouldn't you then be the male version of what you deem her to be?

I'm just curious.

 

[deleted463483]

No. That's not how I define douchebaggery. Not to mention I reserve judgment on people until I spend time with them. How they dress has little bearing on my opinion.

I like your style. So many people judge a book by its cover, before they've even read it :-/

I also hate gossip myself. If someone tells me something about someone (i.e. rumors), I'll reserve my judgement until I know its fact (i.e talk to the person).

I generally don't like discussing people, unless its positive, like praising them for something they did.

Rumors are tumors

 

[KTF40]

Because the double standard no longer makes sense for anyone.

If people really thought it didn't make sense anymore, it wouldn't exist.

So why did you allow that girl to even touch you if she's fucked that many guys? Not only did you contradict yourself, your actions clearly work against your own standards.

What makes you think you know my standards? I don't believe I've ever discussed any of my personal preferences in this thread. I've discussed the way I believe men view things (particularly relating to their views on men having sex compared to having sex) and how I believe I can understand that point of view, but don't recall listing my "standards" on here.

But to answer your question, I let her touch me because she was really hot. And I didn't find out she had so many partners until after I slept with her. But even if I knew she had been with so many guys, it wouldn't have made a difference to me at that point in my life.

 

[KTF40]

Like Ethyl, I don't understand why you fucked her, then. If you think so little of her, why "stoop down" (so to speak) and sleep with her? Why judge a woman for having that many sex partners as damaged goods if you are willing to ride the hobby horse with such an individual?

I'm just curious.

Yeah, not really sure where I said I think "little" of people who have had a lot of different sex partners. I think like Ethyl, you're confusing my view of how men think and what my own personal views on the matter are.

Personally, I don't view a woman who has fucked a lot of guys as "damaged goods".

 

[Enid]

being that i have no idea what any of those designers are and what they look like, i would have to reserve my judgement [sic] lol

but let me give you an example

if you see a guy with greesed [sic] spiked hair
a grotesque ed hardy shirt that is too small
true religion jeans with some ridiculous dragon design on the pockets
and cheesy tattoo's [sic] to cover his fake tan and roid zits

im pretty sure the first thing that would pop in your mind is "douchebag" .. right?

i wouldn't think much at all, except perhaps to idly ponder why he might be wearing such ill-fitting clothing (only if it was pronounced enough to be ridiculous though). i would reserve any judgments about his character (douchebag versus non-douchebag) until he opened his mouth and revealed his personality to me.

also, i like dragons.

as a side note, chanel is a french fashion house founded by the late couturier gabrielle "coco" chanel. one of the most established in haute couture.

hermes is a french high fashion house as well.

louboutin started as a french footwear designer. i am sure you've seen pictures of celebs wearing his heels.

brooks brothers is what i happen to favor myself, and they are the oldest men's clothier chain in the US though they happen to make women's clothing as well. think new england prep school.

 

[Ethyl]

If people really thought it didn't make sense anymore, it wouldn't exist.

Lots of things exist that don't make sense. Female genital mutilation, for instance. Human trafficking. Murder. Need I go on?

What makes you think you know my standards? I don't believe I've ever discussed any of my personal preferences in this thread. I've discussed the way I believe men view things (particularly relating to their views on men having sex compared to having sex) and how I believe I can understand that point of view, but don't recall listing my "standards" on here.

Your "standards" were implied by your posts. If they're not your standards, then feel free to explain them.

But to answer your question, I let her touch me because she was really hot. And I didn't find out she had so many partners until after I slept with her. But even if I knew she had been with so many guys, it wouldn't have made a difference to me at that point in my life.

So if the chick is really hot it's ok if she's a slut?

Btw, some of the guys in this thread should read the above in bold.

EDIT: saw your explanation above. Nevermind my first question. Thank you for explaining.

 

[Ethyl]

also, i like dragons.

I have a pair of black stockings with a dragon on the side of each leg. Hope that doesn't make me a douchebag. :tongue:

 

[B_Bjen2848]

No. That's not how I define douchebaggery. Not to mention I reserve judgment on people until I spend time with them. How they dress has little bearing on my opinion.

whyyyyyyy are you making this hard, its like almost impossible for people to connect dots on their own (sigh)

yes, of course you would have to spend time with them to see if they really are a douche, slut, asshole, nice person, easy going, shy, outgoing etc, etc, etc

but people usually represent themselves by the image they portray, why is that so hard for you to understand? (i think you do understand this, but you're just giving me a hard time, nobody can be this naive)

yes maybe there is a girl out there who wears a mini skirt who's cooch lips is visible, and just a white tank top with water all over it showing her tits wearing clear porn star heels to biology class because she knows her teacher is hot for her so she'll get an 'A' no matter what is not a slut, you never know but chances are, if it smells like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck ... its probably a duck ... and if it isn't a duck than at best she is bad at representing herself

why do people have such a hard time wrapping their head around subjects like this when it isn't hard to understand

people judge people, yes its wrong, but it is what it is

most people judge people by the way they represent themselves, their personality and how they act, those are probably the 3 biggest factors

with that being said, people will have consequences for everything they do, whether they like it or not, it is what it is

that is where the labels come from

if you do not care about labels and other peoples judgement, good for you! you're anti social and couldn't give a shit and the above statements don't apply to you!

but, at the same time, you can't have your cake and eat it too, you can't do whatever you want and not care selectively if you're gonna bang every guy who looks at you twice and not care about it, don't get upset with people calling you a slut and not find a man who will take you seriously(i thought you said you didnt care)

if you're going to steal shit, don't get mad when people call you a theaf and won't let you closer than 5 feet of their stuff

if you're going to do whatever it takes to not pay a bill at a restaurant and leave the bill for everyone else, don't get upset when you never get invited to eat anywhere

i cant be the only person with common sense here, i just cant be, and if i am, that is sad

 

[KTF40]

Lots of things exist that don't make sense. Female genital mutilation, for instance. Human trafficking. Murder. Need I go on?

Only if you want.

Your "standards" were implied by your posts. If they're not your standards, then feel free to explain them.

I dunno, I'll usually ask someone if they are a heavy snorer before I fuck them just because I know it won't work out if you're real loud like that. Most the other stuff I take a on a case by case basis.

So if the chick is really hot it's ok if she's a slut?

Well personally, the only girls I consider sluts are the one's who want to be called that.

 

[Ethyl]

whyyyyyyy are you making this hard, its like almost impossible for people to connect dots on their own (sigh)

Yes. Dumb am I.

but people usually represent themselves by the image they portray, why is that so hard for you to understand? (i think you do understand this, but you're just giving me a hard time, nobody can be this naive)

I could only dream of being worldly and well-rounded as you.

yes maybe there is a girl out there who wears a mini skirt who's cooch lips is visible, and just a white tank top with water all over it showing her tits wearing clear porn star heels to biology class because she knows her teacher is hot for her so she'll get an 'A' no matter what is not a slut, you never know but chances are, if it smells like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck ... its probably a duck ... and if it isn't a duck than at best she is bad at representing herself

If I'm so clueless, why is there so much porn available with women dressed as teachers, nurses, maids, and catholic school girls? I'll answer for you. Because men enjoy the dichotomy of the good girl/bad girl. There are lots of conservatively dressed women out there who shag lots of men on a regular basis. You just won't know it until she nails you.

if you do not care about labels and other peoples judgement, good for you! you're anti social and couldn't give a shit and the above statements don't apply to you!

I'm not anti-social at all. You're a terrible judge of character so far and I'm not even wearing a short skirt. Damn.

but, at the same time, you can't have your cake and eat it too, you can't do whatever you want and not care selectively if you're gonna bang every guy who looks at you twice and not care about it, don't get upset with people calling you a slut and not find a man who will take you seriously(i thought you said you didnt care)

Actually I can have my cake and eat it too. But thanks for playing.

if you're going to do whatever it takes to not pay a bill at a restaurant and leave the bill for everyone else, don't get upset when you never get invited to eat anywhere

Wha?