why so angry?

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I really can't take the OP seriously. Usage of the word "cunt" has troll written all over it. If I want a teenybopper flame war, I'll go to youtube.

I'm going to do the right thing here and not respond to this thread again. May this thread sink quickly to the bottom of the thread pile, never to be unearthed again. It's not worth rubbing two brain cells together over.
 

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Misbehavior, when not followed by a consequence, persists and worsens.
 

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I actually think the women here deal with the misogynist trolls fairly well. They're always much more polite than I would be.

The answer to this question is that if you are asking the question, you're probably an asshole.
 

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I really can't take the OP seriously. Usage of the word "cunt" has troll written all over it. If I want a teenybopper flame war, I'll go to youtube.

I'm going to do the right thing here and not respond to this thread again. May this thread sink quickly to the bottom of the thread pile, never to be unearthed again. It's not worth rubbing two brain cells together over.

This. But a big thank you goes out to all the wonderful women and men who thought it WAS worth spending time and effort on.
 

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In general, the women of LPSG are the most precious thing this site has to offer!
No, you are, Precious. :rolleyes:







Just as an aside, does anybody besides me wonder if the OP might have had an ulterior motive? Like maybe he gets off on stirring up these kinds of reactions? Did anybody notice his pic and username? Does anybody else detect a whiff of hopeful SPH in the air?
 

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Oh, boy.


I do think Petite was right, and I was giving the OP more credit than he actually deserved. Though, I felt like to get it out there as soon as possible - like ripping off a bandaid - before this would end up to be one of those endless discussions about our "cunty-ness". Let it be perfectly clear: yes, we are cunts.. if you're a dick. And if thats something you can't handle, I think AE was spot on with quoting the lovely Zora, go fuck yourself. But please, do so silently.

I really don't have much more to say, the other fabulous LSPG ladies and gents have done a great job in doin so already, so I'll keep it at this. But I couldnt help but wanting to say you guys all - clearly - are awesome.
 

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Is that roses I smell? One of the precious ladies must have farted.

Sorry to interrupt this smugfest but I tend to agree with the OP. I've even had my own bout or two with the cranky cunt collective and his sense of the anger pervasive in this forum isn't an illusion. This is the only forum I've seen on this site or any other with frequent threads started with angry dictatorial posts telling men (not people in general but men specifically) just what and how they may post in it. And should one post without the proper reverence to our esteemed panel (men are supposed to kneel when typing in this forum, don't you know) ye shall suffer our wrath.

Hello! What's so awesome about that?

Our detailed descriptions of sex may be arousing, I'm sure het men think that's awesome of us.
Our pictures may be arousing, I'm sure het men think that's awesome of us.
Our willingness to flirt may give you a semi, I'm sure het men think that's awesome of us.
Our support, when given, may give you a warm fuzzy feeling of acceptance, this actually is awesome of us.

It's all well and good to appreciate someone for any of the above reasons but I would hope that no one's erection robs the brain of so much blood that they think that those things make the woman awesome in total and that they shouldn't be upset or disagreed with ever.

Dictators are not awesome.
Gender doesn't change that.
Get your nose out of our asses and your head might clear of those intoxicating fumes.

I agree that the male-directed female anger quotient is higher here than elsewhere and I think Katt did an excellent job of outlining the expectation factors that contribute to it. The flipside of the irritation factor is the adulation factor. Just because we star in some of the men's fantasies doesn't mean they should elevate us to celebrity status, yet they do. Indulging our sense of self importance and tantrums only makes us cattier and brattier. Stop elevating us and call us on our bullshit, please, we're only people.

Just a question here. For those saying this wasn't worth responding to, why did you post?
 

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As the OP that started all of this, I think that most of the posts about what I said are pretty fair. I did over-generalize and in my attempt to be provocative, I came off as a bit (a lot) of a troll. To be honest, I was a bit irritated when I posted. Emotional posts aren't always the most intelligent...

I do not want to waste a lot of everyone's time and energy here -- I know I cannot "win" this one and probably will not change anyone's mind about the tone of the "Women's Issues" forum. We can agreee to disagree.

While reflecting this morning on another way to convey what I crudely stated last night, I thought it might make sense to use an analogy. On other forums, there are newbies and active old-timers and dumb questions abound by those newbies. The more informed people that frequent the site and have actually formed relationships try to educate people and not totally flame them, recognizing that the newbies may not be as "into" whatever topic the forum focuses upon. Here, there is much less tolerance for those "dumb" questions and seemingly no appreciation that for many it is a huge turn-on to ask those dumb questions and get someone to talk about the issue, even if it is just a ruse to get off. It is as though many women feel violated by that ruse and aren't willing to play along. I get it. But it seems like this should be tolerated a bit more on a dick-based website.

I understand there are (at least) two camps here: one that comes to check out some pics and browse the forums quickly, and others who have moved past all of that and have friends and meaningful relationships. I just don't think it's cool that those in the second camp flame the dudes that are in the first camp and looking for a little self-indulgent stimulation. Can't you just ignore the dumb posts? Why must you belittle the person?

I guess that's my beef. I see that some of you want to confine the discussion and group of people to a pre-defined set of social standards, but on a site such as this it's a real bummer for those who aren't as socially entrenched and are just looking for some fun and exciting banter.

Thanks all.
 

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As the OP that started all of this, I think that most of the posts about what I said are pretty fair. I did over-generalize and in my attempt to be provocative, I came off as a bit (a lot) of a troll. To be honest, I was a bit irritated when I posted. Emotional posts aren't always the most intelligent...

I do not want to waste a lot of everyone's time and energy here -- I know I cannot "win" this one and probably will not change anyone's mind about the tone of the "Women's Issues" forum. We can agreee to disagree.

While reflecting this morning on another way to convey what I crudely stated last night, I thought it might make sense to use an analogy. On other forums, there are newbies and active old-timers and dumb questions abound by those newbies. The more informed people that frequent the site and have actually formed relationships try to educate people and not totally flame them, recognizing that the newbies may not be as "into" whatever topic the forum focuses upon. Here, there is much less tolerance for those "dumb" questions and seemingly no appreciation that for many it is a huge turn-on to ask those dumb questions and get someone to talk about the issue, even if it is just a ruse to get off. It is as though many women feel violated by that ruse and aren't willing to play along. I get it. But it seems like this should be tolerated a bit more on a dick-based website.

I understand there are (at least) two camps here: one that comes to check out some pics and browse the forums quickly, and others who have moved past all of that and have friends and meaningful relationships. I just don't think it's cool that those in the second camp flame the dudes that are in the first camp and looking for a little self-indulgent stimulation. Can't you just ignore the dumb posts? Why must you belittle the person?

I guess that's my beef. I see that some of you want to confine the discussion and group of people to a pre-defined set of social standards, but on a site such as this it's a real bummer for those who aren't as socially entrenched and are just looking for some fun and exciting banter.

Thanks all.

I think you've actually isolated the problem, to the extent that there is one. On most forums the "noobs" are just that, inexperienced posters. The only major difference between them and the vets is time and posts accrued; their interests and sometimes even their personalities are largely the same. On this site, however, you have the phenomenon wherein many of the noobs are a) gender- or dicksize-fakers, b) ruse-artists looking to elicit fresh jerking material, or c) total misogynist T.Max-style pinheads who treat the women around them like mere repositories for their own sperm. So, in general there's a lot more hostility and dishonesty emanating from the side of the noobs. Mostly it seems like this stuff is usually ignored, or at the most treated to a few :rolleyes:'s. It's only when the noob really steps over the line that they (rightfully) draw ire.

Of course, gilette would insist I'm only saying this because secretly lpsg women are the stars of my erotic fantasies. :rolleyes: Because we the drooling knuckle-draggers can't possibly think rationally about this kind of thing.
 
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Wow. Would it be too much to ask for an example of the supposed dictatorial-ness?

Not at all. There are two currently on the top page.

http://www.lpsg.org/81661-your-cock-is-not-a.html
http://www.lpsg.org/239855-your-womans-issues.html

Not to mention the threads where changing the forum's title or creating subforums has been the goal because the extant participation didn't adhere to certain gatekeepers' definition of what the forum should be used for.

It's not that I entirely disagree with some of the points being made but I do heartily disagree with the approach they take. Clicking away from a thread that doesn't appeal to you is easy, reporting a thread to have it moved by to a more appropriate forum by the mods is easy. Both of these options require far less effort than the piling abuse on a poster who hasn't worded something just so or posted a topic in the wrong (in some ladies' opinions) forum. But still the abuse road is the more frequent choice. Why?

Nobody should have to walk on eggshells and I'm embarrassed by the lack of tolerance and personal control displayed in the WI at times.