circle jerk

[Skinny Guinea]

Reasoning would say that the guys doing the dick waving were actually quite gay; how on earth did they think they were degrading the guy, making him "gay," or whatever, by making him sit on a block of ice while they waved their dicks at him? I mean, they're the ones who chose this activity!

But I think the issue here is power. The object is to objectify the other guy and humiliate him (even if in a joking way), with a sexual context involved.

If I may quote myself.... (Yes, I may.)

Reading through my post above, I realized something. To the male mind, the penis represents power. What is really going on in the situation with the naked guy sitting on the block of ice and the other guys waving their dicks in his face, is this: the other guys are saying, "We have the power and you don't! The penis represents power, and I am waving my power in your face! Meanwhile, you are naked, cold, and shivering, and your dick, the symbol of your power, is shrivelling and small."

If I take this reasoning and put it on to circle jerks, perhaps what it means is that at some level circle jerks are an acknowledgement that of each others' power. "We all have dicks. We all have power. I'm okay with the fact that you have a dick and are powerful." This is most likely what we mean by the "brotherly" aspect of it.

EDIT: Eerie coicidencence, but I am currently listening to the album I listened to with the two brothers I mentioned. We listened to it the day before we had the "circle jerk." I haven't had this album for years because my entire CD collection had been stolen. "I'm so happy, 'cus today I found my friends."

 

[B_hungrick]

Originally posted by Skinny Guinea@Oct 26 2005, 08:20 PM
That's exactly it: "One of the things I liked about them was a certain feeling of brotherly connection." I was never in a "circle" either, and the most I did this with was two other guys. And it didn't feel sexual per se.

I suppose what we're really talking about is "subject/object." In other words, while we were indeed doing something that was sexual, neither participant was an object of the sexual activity. I mean, it's quite different to stand in front of a naked woman and jack off while you look at her naked body, and just stand or sit beside another guy and jerk off. In the situation with the circle jerk, the other guys are not the "object." The "object," as it were, is each man's own penis, or sperm (since the object is to see who can ejaculate first).

There's more here to this that I'm not quite grasping and not explaining. But I have a feeling this thread will probably continue for a while, so I'll probably get to it later.

Oh, a question: did you feel awkward after you ejaculated? In the situation with my friend, he and I were both pre-pubescent and weren't even ejaculating yet. In the situaiton with the two brothers, I did indeed ejaculate eventually -- and I felt very awkward afterwards, and never really saw the guys again (and can't say I regret that, either). If I ever saw them again, I would not talk to them about this, and I would hope they don't even remember it.

In other words, I only have one experience of ejaculating in the context of a "circle jerk," and that one experience was awkward enough to make me never want to do it again. I can't imagine what it must be like to be in a room full of other guys and have that happen. In the heat of the momment, I got so caught up in ejaculating (and "winning") that I lost sight of how awkward I'd feel afterwards. I can't imagine what it must be like for a room full of guys like that, who do it on a regular basis. It might fuck with their heads. Then again, if they do it often enough, maybe they're just a lot more comfortable with it (and their bodies) than I am.

Thanks for listening. This is such an interesting, and unusual, topic.

Skinny Guinea

I see so many ideas in this thread. I've been in circle jerks with my friends when I was a teenager (or maybe I'd call them "watching porn" jerks). We weren't in a circle but rather we're looking at vidoes. There was a competitive aspect to it too. They weren't situations that were planned but rather just happened. One of the things I liked about them was a certain feeling of brotherly connection. Hard to explain. Maybe a male bonding thing. Since I've been on this site & have been more public about my exhibitionistic tendencies, I've been enjoying my body a lot more. I've discussed my tendencies with other guys (and women), and don't feel it's necessarily a straight or gay thing. It's a "sexual" thing. So I'm feeling that anything people want to do together & that's not coercive is cool with me.

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SkinnyG, my jerk-off experiences with my buddies as a teenager wasn't very thought out. I don't feel we were thinking about the issues of power or subject/object. We were just horny & watching videos. My friends didn't act selfconscious or uncomfortable. It was just a sharing of energy or something like that. I do remember that they made comments about the size of my dick & kept checking me out. I did like the attention. The other aspect of this adolescent homo-erotic activity is that each of us knew how good it felt to masturbate. Some guys would actually say, "This feels so good". And we'd exchange techniques on how to increase the great sensations. So there's a common pleasure to it all. We all knew how great it felt, so that created a common bond too. Hope this makes sense.

 

[jonb]

Originally posted by Hung Muscle+Oct 25 2005, 04:31 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Hung Muscle &#064; Oct 25 2005, 04:31 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-jonb@Oct 17 2005, 07:29 PM

Which is why the queens never get that straight guy, but the masculine gay guy who doesn&#39;t go out looking specifically for straight guys does.

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Queens never get "that straight guy" but masculine gay guys do. What the fuck does that mean? Implicit in this ridiculous statement is the notion that gay men are trying to "get" straight guys -- even when they&#39;re not actively looking to hook up with them.

Jeeeez.

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The normal every day gay guy. Okay? And I&#39;m not saying that gay guys go out looking for straight guys. I&#39;m just saying that if a straight guy sleeps with another guy, it&#39;ll more often be a regular guy and not the total camp type. Jacinto said it more eloquently than I can.

 

[jonb]

Originally posted by Skinny Guinea@Oct 25 2005, 02:48 AM
About the money shot being a little homoerotic, I&#39;ve always thought this myself. In fact, I&#39;ve always thought that a straight guy watching straight porn by himself is actually homoerotic -- because he is ultimately watching another man have sex&#33; Sure, the man is ultimately a stand-in for the straight male viewer, but he is not literally the straight male viewer. Bottom line, the straight male porn industry (which is a multi-billion-dollar industry) is testimony to the fact that straight men are homoerotic, because we like to see other straight men get off with women. Add to this the fact that most male porn stars are very well endowed, and you find that most straight men like looking at big penises ... at least when they are engaged with a woman.

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The evolution of men in straight porn:

70s-80s: Regular guys. Usually in their 20s, sometimes 30s, even a few 18-19-year-olds or fortysomethings. Endowment&#39;s a plus, but not necessarily required. I call this the independent era, because independent legit films tend to use actors who really look like normal people.
90s: Ron Jeremy era. Fat hairy balding guys dominate the porn industry. There also seems to be a bit of discrimination against men who are uncircumcised, at least in the States. The only thing about the straight porn stars even remotely attractive is their larger penises.
2000s: The age of the man-crush. The large penis remains a staple of porn, but the guys are younger, more fit, and generally mesomorphs or ectomorphs. Oh, and we start seeing more foreskins, even in American porn. All in all, these are the guys we wish we were.

Not to get preachy, but the big problem is the &#39;no bisexuals&#39; myth. Occasionally popping a boner for another guy doesn&#39;t make you gay, and even if it did, there&#39;s nothing wrong with that.

 

[Skinny Guinea]

Of course it makes sense. This is exactly how it was for me and my friend. I remember him telling me different stuff to do. He had this thing about the difference between "spanking the monkey" and "petting the monkey"; spanking was the full-blown wacking, while petting was just rubbing your finger on the head. I remember him saying, "Yeah, do this. It feels so good&#33;"

None of this was "thought out" for any of us. The perspective I come from when talking about all this underlying stuff is a very psychological perspective, where I refer to "subconscious" motivations. I believe everything I mentioned above was on a subconscious level.

Anyway, you are of course completely free to disagree with me. That goes without saying. But just let me say it&#39;s cool to be able to talk to someone about this. Over the years, I have occasionally looked back on these situations and thought, "I wonder what that was about." I&#39;ve never really had anyone to talk to about this stuff. Thanks.

SkinnyG, my jerk-off experiences with my buddies as a teenager wasn&#39;t very thought out. I don&#39;t feel we were thinking about the issues of power or subject/object. We were just horny & watching videos. My friends didn&#39;t act selfconscious or uncomfortable. It was just a sharing of energy or something like that. I do remember that they made comments about the size of my dick & kept checking me out. I did like the attention. The other aspect of this adolescent homo-erotic activity is that each of us knew how good it felt to masturbate. Some guys would actually say, "This feels so good". And we&#39;d exchange techniques on how to increase the great sensations. So there&#39;s a common pleasure to it all. We all knew how great it felt, so that created a common bond too. Hope this makes sense.

 

[Little Devil]

My fantasie is to have a All male Bukake where Im the one getting load after load of hot cum shot all over me.

But no I have never had a circle jerk, sounds like a lot of fun.

 

[Alley Blue]

Originally posted by Little Devil@Oct 30 2005, 07:27 PM
My fantasie is to have a All male Bukake where Im the one getting load after load of hot cum shot all over me.

But no I have never had a circle jerk, sounds like a lot of fun.

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I&#39;ve always wondered what the attraction is to Bukake?
Little Devil, as a 70% straight guy, what attraction does it hold for you? Is it more of a physiological thrill?

 

[Little Devil]

its weird. I have tons of fantasies which involve hot looking cocks and lots of cum


For instance I would dont need to really see the guy. I would love to have a hot sexy looking cock in a glory hole and go nuts on the cock and then have either 1) him blast a huge load of cum down my throat or
2) a huge load of cum all over my face.

It just really turns me on.

 

[Skinny Guinea]

If you want to be the focus of a bukake, then I&#39;d think you&#39;d need to up your percentage from 30% to at least 50% gay.

 

[Little Devil]

Well I am still very nervous when it comes to acually doing it. But I have many fantasies that I would love to fill.

If I could find a well hung guy who shoots tons of cum and is 100% safe in all ways STD. I would love to attempt deep throat and have him blast a huge load down the back of my throat.

Dang just talking about it get me turned on.

Same with anal. I would love to feel a hot load of cum inside me.

But you have to understand that I am not into the kissing the touching or anything else. I just want the hot lust of sex.

Many years back I met this guy who I would call up and go over and give him a blowjob have him shoot on me or something then leave.

I know Im odd or strange.

 

[Alley Blue]

Originally posted by Little Devil@Oct 31 2005, 10:00 PM
I know Im odd or strange.

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Join the club

 

[Edmond405]

Only in my dreams have I ever been in a circle jerk. You guys are lucky&#33;

Though one time I swear a left a party just before one happened - darn the luck.

- E

 

[jonb]

Oh really? You should try it some time. In a standard circle jerk, you&#39;ll see how you measure up, learn other boys&#39; techniques, and get ideas for new fantasies.

 

[averagej03]

I left the rooms when my friends did it, I felt very awkward, and im terrbily shy anyways.

 

[Karena Morgan]

<span style="font-family:Comic Sans Ms"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">Yayyy&#33;&#33;

I WAS that girl in the middle

...been there, done that, stained the T-Shirt &#33;</span></span>

 

[Skinny Guinea]

That&#39;s disgusting&#33;

 

[Wave]

Hey Jon Black..where ya live....cuz i dwell in Ohio as well&#33;

And Skinny Guniea...nice to have you back; i felt bad that you removed your picture after my comment to you last week&#33;

 

[bareamigo]

When I originally read through this post I thought circle jerks sounded kinda hot, and wondered where I'd been all my life that I never been in one. then I realized that when I was a very young teen, I'd jacked off with my two cousins--they were older and showed me a lot! So I guess that counts. But I haven't done anything like that since I've been an adult--but would be curious.Gabe

 

[bdsb458]

How do these circle jerks get started? I really wanna get in on one of these!!

 

[Gaiusvir]

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