Do Bisexual Men Exist?

[bravestarr]

It may be something women struggle with; it sounds like it's not uncommon with women perhaps. But that's just not the way men are. Sorry. Men and Women are completely different.

Obviously people can and do define themselves as they like. I know that. And they have to go by what they say about themselves. But people never choose their sexual orientation.

Now, female bisexuality may well exist and that's a completely different subject. I really have no opinion about it right now perhaps till I see you in DC, we will discuss it in close door. :tongue: LOL (I note with interest the number of threads by women asking if they should be considered bisexual and so on and how they have same-sex and opposite sex attractions at the same time but this is simply not we are discussing about on this thread).

My ex -- remember, she used to say she was "very bi" but later came out as gay -- once said to me, "I want you to myself, but I want Ellen [DeGeneres] to have all of ME!"

I joke now that she's 95% gay and that I have the remaining 5%.

My sister, though, certainly still has an attraction towards women, at least enough for the two of us to talk about attractive women we see on the street.

Of course neither my ex-gf or sister are men, but I think they're two examples of how bisexuality is a gray area and how individuals can shift one way or the other.

 

[bravestarr]

The reality is about half of all men who report being bisexual today will later proclaim they are and always were gay. Why? Probably because of confusion over definitions (not confusion over how they feel)-- in other words, if they've ever had sex with a woman, even if it were just once compared with 99 other times with men they might assume that makes them "bi" by definition, which it does not. Or, contrarywise, if they've always loved and had sex with women but just tried sex once or twice with a male friend - even to later decide they didn't like it- they might assume that meant they were bi. But it does not. Or, they might be trying very hard not to be gay, they might be suppressing same-sex attraction and forcing on themselves sex with women (maybe even a marriage) just to try to change or convince others they are not gay and because of this believe they are bi. None of these things make a man bisexual.

The reason I come out so strongly against the notion of bisexuality in men is not only because I don't think it exists, but also because I think the belief it exists is harmful. I've heard of couples who remained married for years believing the husband was bisexual and only needed to get out once and a while and be with a guy to satisfy his needs, only to find out a decade or so later that he was gay all along and that there was no possible hope for the marraige. I've heard of guys staying in marriages -even re-marrying- because of the belief they were bi only to hurt some woman in the process when they later decided they were not bi but just gay.

 

[hud01]

It may be something women struggle with; it sounds like it's not uncommon with women perhaps. But that's just not the way men are. Sorry. Men and Women are completely different.

So you just denied the entire feminist movement of the last 40 years.

 

[Wish-4-8]

Sexuality is sexuality. Yes, men and women are different. My first thought after reading Bravestarr's first posts was, "What about bi-sexual women?" It seems that there is a double standard to that issue. The point was addressed saying that the same rules do not apply. But they must because sexuality is a human condition. One thing I have learned here on this site is that there are many shades of sexuality. Bi-sexuality is just a label for lack of better terms.

Statistiaclly, Bravestarr may have a point that Bi-men are overwhelmingly closet cases. But the original question was if bi-sexualty does exsist. Just from a logical stand point, it must. Whatever "genetic mutations" cause one to favor one sex for the other will logically produce a true bisexual man at some point. They may be more rare, but the possibilty does exsist.

Now the question of bisexual women. In the porn industry, it is very common for women to aquire the taste. Maybe they try it out and like parts of it. Maybe it is more accepted in society. Heck, it has its own porn catagory. Just watch any MFF threesome. Now, I mean no disrespect by implying that porn is the model of bisexual women. I am just saying that there are less reprecussions for women then there are for men. This has been discussed on other threads. Also, a major point here is that you have to accept the fact that someone may choose to experiment. Yes, choose. It is not a dirty word. That choice has to be seen as valid as a "real" homosexual or bisexual with "real" feelings. That would be consistent with the gray area in sexuality.

But there is a danger in true bisexuality. You have to be in a relationship that will support it. What ever partner you chose to be with, you will have to surpress a part of who you are. Unless you have a partner that understands that those needs will have to be satisfied, then you will always be disiring the thing you can not have. The cheating begins, or the resentment. Either one is not good for the relationship.

 

[D_Jerry_Atric]

Sexuality is sexuality. Yes, men and women are different. My first thought after reading Bravestarr's first posts was, "What about bi-sexual women?" It seems that there is a double standard to that issue. The point was addressed saying that the same rules do not apply. But they must because sexuality is a human condition. One thing I have learned here on this site is that there are many shades of sexuality. Bi-sexuality is just a label for lack of better terms.

Statistiaclly, Bravestarr may have a point that Bi-men are overwhelmingly closet cases. But the original question was if bi-sexualty does exsist. Just from a logical stand point, it must. Whatever "genetic mutations" cause one to favor one sex for the other will logically produce a true bisexual man at some point. They may be more rare, but the possibilty does exsist.

Now the question of bisexual women. In the porn industry, it is very common for women to aquire the taste. Maybe they try it out and like parts of it. Maybe it is more accepted in society. Heck, it has its own porn catagory. Just watch any MFF threesome. Now, I mean no disrespect by implying that porn is the model of bisexual women. I am just saying that there are less reprecussions for women then there are for men. This has been discussed on other threads. Also, a major point here is that you have to accept the fact that someone may choose to experiment. Yes, choose. It is not a dirty word. That choice has to be seen as valid as a "real" homosexual or bisexual with "real" feelings. That would be consistent with the gray area in sexuality.

But there is a danger in true bisexuality. You have to be in a relationship that will support it. What ever partner you chose to be with, you will have to surpress a part of who you are. Unless you have a partner that understands that those needs will have to be satisfied, then you will always be disiring the thing you can not have. The cheating begins, or the resentment. Either one is not good for the relationship.

How is there a danger in bisexuality? Also what do you mean by "true" bisexuality?

I know that you're straight so I don't expect you to understand what it's like being bisexual or queer.

No offense, but I don't want to be heterosexual, and I do often get puzzled by heterosexuals as much as they are puzzled by us queers and non-heterosexuals.

People who are bisexual can be monogamous, faithful, and in closed relationships just as much as someone who is gay or straight. Someone's orientation has nothing to do if they are going to cheat on a partner or not.

I have bisexual male and female friends who are in relationships with both gay and straight people and they have been monogamous for decades and the fact that one partner is monosexual and the other partner is bisexual isn't an issue at all. Nobody cheats on anyone either, there's no resentment, and there are such things as porn and fantasy.

News flash! Straight people cheat on each other ALL the time!

Heterosexual marriage is pretty much a joke anyway and it's a failed institute. Homosexual couples are not always monogamous or faithful to each other either.

As far as non-monogamous open relationships go, they are A LOT more common than most people know about or want to accept. Even straight people have them.

Some are completely open and everyone knows about everything that goes on, or sometimes they are the more common don't ask and don't tell ones where both partners will go out and have sex but neither one wants to know about the details or about what goes on.

Some people want open relationships with one gender and want closed/monogamous ones with another.

I don't see anything wrong with any of this as it's all between the people who are in a relationship together and nobody else at all.

They make the rules, set the boundaries, and what's cheating is only defined by them.

As far as what you are writing about bisexual women having it easier than bisexual men, it only just seems that way.

I have bisexual female friends and they have told me how some Lesbians are very biphobic and are notorious for hating bisexual women. Then there are straight men who do not take female bisexuality seriously and think that most or all women are bisexual or think that it's like in porn where if they are with a bisexual woman they will get MFF/FMF 3 ways or get to watch two women have sex with each other.

 

[B_RoysToy]

"Bi" these days seems to mean "is sexually attracted to men, knows it, but doesn't want to be identified with gay culture". It's more a statement of personal style than of actual physical desire. Not that there's anything all that wrong with that. I like plain old regular men, too.

I've only known one guy I truly thought of as bisexual. I got together with him after not seeing him for a couple years after high school. I went to where he was living with this hot nurse (an older woman, probably in her mid-20s at the time). She was there, and when I saw him looking at her with love (or was it lust?) in his eyes, I thought my chances of getting it on with him were zero. He was just too into her. But then she went off to her evening shift, and he swiftly got me into bed and fucked my ass for the first time. And that same look of lust was in his eyes for me.

This dude was truly bi. Only one I've ever known.

I had misconceptions re. bisexual individuals before knowing one male who was a regular with me off and on for 5-6 years. Living 130 miles from him meant our sexual activity was limited to once or twice a month, most of those years. I say 'most' because sometimes visits were more than overnights. He especially wanted me if he had a hookup scheduled for a female the following night, saying he could fuck her better after having dick in his ass the night before. He said, and I believe him, that he honestly didn't know if he were gay or heterosexual, so he called himself bisexual. From my personal experiences with him, I totally believe that people vary too much to even think about trying to peg them in certain groups. The thing about diversity is in some ways we are all different. This is a good thing.

 

[LeeEJ]

So you just denied the entire feminist movement of the last 40 years.

Hmm... Well, then again, what goes on in the bedroom (which is what we're discussing here) shouldn't have a bearing on social status, careers, etc (which is what the feminist movement has been about)..

 

[bravestarr]

The feminist movement really only had to do with boardroom skills, not bedroom skills. Although boardroom sex is hot ... I need a Fuckner !!! :tongue:

So you just denied the entire feminist movement of the last 40 years.

 

[tiger_oakley]

yes bi men exist......when a man is horny and his best bud will suck his dick 4 him -- he mite do it if no one will find out!

 

[D_Jerry_Atric]

Bravestarr and others:

Of course you are entitled to your opinions even if they are wrong, bigoted, outdated, and quite frankly total bullshit.

It doesn't mean that I have to sit back and take it, or play the passive victim.

It's entirely possible to be bisexual that is sexually and perhaps even romantically attracted to both sexes.

Just like it's possible to be more than one gender or be a gender that is not male or female.

Actually yes bisexuality is a stable sexual orientation it is just as stable as
being gay or straight is. No this has nothing to do with politics, queer theory, the idea that sexuality is a choice, the false concept that bisexuals are confused, or the false concept that all or most bisexuals are really closeted gay men and closeted lesbians.

I really don't give a fuck if some close minded breeders and gay men who don't understand bisexuality think that I'm gay as I can easily pass as both gay and heterosexual but I'm neither as the biggest mistake people make about bisexuality is comparing it to monosexuality when there are 1,000s of flavours of it and everyone is different and some bisexuals are more or even mostly into one gender than the other one for both sex and romance but it does not make them straight or gay.

Also you can be bisexual and only have or want to have sex with the same or opposite gender when both genders are there, or you can be bisexual and be a complete virgin to all genders or just one gender.

Not all bisexual people enjoy 3 ways either.

Some bisexals are not into vanilla sex at all with one sex and just want to do kink/BDSM with that gender and they are OK with not doing any BDSM/kink with the other sex. Some bisexuals fall in love with both sexes and some do not and only fall in love with one sex.

Other bisexuals frequently prefer one sex over the other when it comes to sexual attraction and romance/partnership but this does not make them
straight or gay. Some are into vanilla sex only with both sexes and are not into kink/BDSM at all really.

Also some bisexuals consider themselves to be more than one orientation such as being Bi-hetero, a Bi-Dyke, or being a Bi-Gay male. No it's not confusion at all or anything like that.

I'm not confused about my sexuality even if certain people on here think that I'm a closeted gay man or that I'll eventually become fully homosexual just because some ignorant biphobic homosexuals have told them otherwise or just because they personally think that bisexual men will eventually come out as being gay since this is the only way bisexuality makes sense to them.

I have my preferences as we all do when it comes to who we are and are not attracted to but the world is my sexual and romantic oyster and I desire sex and can fall in love with men, women, Transmen/Transwomen, Intersexed, and Genderqueer people too.

I like 3 ways and I frequently fantasize about having sex with both a man and a woman at the same time. I'm also quite comfortable having sex with two men at the same time. I also fantasize about Transpeople and people who are not the male or female gender.

I've had fantasies about getting a group of men, women, and Trans people together in a room and having it totally dark and having everyone experience sexual pleasure together. Obviously I am not going to do that since I'm not promiscious, I don't like sex with strangers, and this is not the time before HIV/AIDS was discovered.

I'm comfortable doing vanilla sex (sex that does not involve any kink/BDSM or fetishes at all), if a partner is not into any kink/BDSM at all; but I'm also very into kink/BDSM and giving sensations, control during sex, giving up control during sex, being Dominant during sex, being submissive during sex, being a switch (both Dominant/submissive during sex), and also being a Sir/Master, and slave/boy/pup during sex interests me too.

OK having a thin high femme Mistress or switch interests me too and letting her do consensual "rape" scenes, knife play, pup play, tit torture, bondage, hot wax, and other types of BDSM to me and switch back and forth if we're both switches and into the same kinks.

I've never put my penis inside a woman's vagina. Let's just say I'm not into vanilla sex with women and there's nothing wrong with this as I do kink/BDSM safe, sane, and consensually with like minded adults.

I've just put fingers and a tongue inside women's vaginas and for the most part I do not want to always put my penis inside a woman's vagina. I'm into using toys both on/in a woman but as far as vaginal intercourse goes at this time in my life I'd only be interested in doing that with another man. I have no desire to 69 with a woman or have a woman suck my cock yet I love to service a woman orally with my mouth. I've had more than a few very hot sex dreams about fisting a woman's vagina and about pleasuring a woman orally with a male partner/lover or I'll have sex dreams about double penetrating a woman with a male partner and then I fuck his ass while he fucks her.

Are the monosexuals confused yet? Keep reading.

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[D_Jerry_Atric]

No I do not want to sleep with everyone who I see or meet. I'm very picky and I have very specific tastes and desires in people. While my sexuality does seem to completely revolve around BDSM and fetishes and there are certain fetishes, a lot of them that only men can fulfill such as facial hair, body hair, shaved heads and short haircuts, uniforms,
leather/denim, the smell of a man's ripe armpits, men wearing leather gloves, men wearing sunglasses, men's feet, jockstraps and other types of men's underwear, and men wearing leather dress shoes and boots.

There are fetishes and fantasies that I have that only women can fulfill.

Such as women's feet as they are soft and pretty and I like how they look and I can get sexually aroused looking at women's well maintained feet. I also like tattoos and piercings on women.

I've been out as bisexual/queer since I was at least 12 or possibly younger. I was out to my family and friends at 16 and they are fine with me.

I knew about my sexual and romantic desire for both genders before puberty. Let's just say that I was very young when I discovered sex with the male gender and it was not rape, forced, or molestation at all. I knew about certain kinks such as Watersports/piss before puberty and by late elementary school at the start of puberty I was watching, hearing, and smelling adult men piss in public bathrooms and getting off on piss,
their cocks, their facial hair, and the male gender.

Hell when I was 12 I would jerk off thinking about a classmate's Dad that was a trucker who had a long thick full dark red beard and I would masturbate about a girl I went to school with too.

As a teenager and young adult my sexuality was and still can be very fluid and I wanted a relationship with a Male/Female couple, and I'd take one with a Male/Male couple, and a Bisexual Trans couple too.

I'm OK with having monogamous relationships with men, certain women, and certain Transmen and maybe some Transwomen too.

I know myself better than any of you all do and like one LPSGer has frequently told me I'm not easily classified or categorized.

Also what's with your outdated viewpoint that most or all bisexual men are really gay or that straight men somehow actually have sex with other men? Or how you think that sexuality is somehow a choice? Did you somehow choose to be heterosexual or decide to be heterosexual since it would make your life easier? Or if you're gay did you decide, well hell I think I'll become a homosexual and be a pariah to heterosexual society!

This is all sarcasm as while we can choose to act on certain things sexually or not at all one's own sexuality is not a personal choice.

Bisexuality is real and there's nothing wrong with it.

How come everytime the topic of bisexuality comes up on a message board frequented by lots of gay men, a few bigoted vocal gay men and a few breeder women have to chime in and have bigoted phobic views about a group of people and say that bisexuality does not exist or else that it's very rare?

Nobody does this about being gay or heterosexual, and it's rather hypocritical that gay men have this viewpoint towards other queer men when gay men themselves frequently get mad at a heterosexual society.

For a group of people that bitches about how ostracized and demoralized they are for who they are, they sure do it a lot to others who can love and enjoy sex with the same gender but are not homosexual/lesbian.

However it's not surprising since some gay men like to treat bisexuals and women like shit, and act as though their misogynistic, biphobic, and bigoted views are OK to have while any criticism of their bigoted viewpoints is lambasted as homophobia.

No bisexuality is not rare at all, in men or in women.

I do not think that gay men, Lesbians, or heterosexuals should be making such sweeping statements about an entire sexuality, especially when neither of them are bisexual and therefore they do not understand it or what it's like to be bisexual.

If gay men need an example of this, it is like when a heterosexual man questions and simply does not understand how a gay man cannot be sexually attracted to women at all. Or when straight men wonder just how a Lesbian is not sexually attracted to men at all.

I have bisexual male friends who can easily pass as gay and they have told me that they are realy bisexual yet tell gay men that they are gay just because most gay men do not understand bisexuality and say that it's rare, does not exist, or they claim that a man has to be partnered with a woman or be equally attracted to both genders both sexually and romantically to be bisexual.

All of these assupmtions are wrong and gay men who claim that they have only met one or two "true" bisexuals need to get out more and stop surrounding themselves with only other gay men and realize that while not everyone is bisexual, it is certainly not rare, it is an acutal sexual orientation just like being gay or straight is, and it only makes you look like a complete bigoted fool who does not know what they are talking about when you spout off such nonsense.

Try actually meeting some bisexual people like here on LPSG or go to a bisexual discussion/social group if you are in a major city or area that has one.

There are a whole shit load of latent bisexuals masquerading around as gay men because they are ignorant of the fact that bisexual doesn't only mean an equal attraction to both genders or they're too scared to admit it because they've invested so much of their time and energy cultivating a gay identity.

The dirty little secret that never gets addressed in the so called gay world is the fact that many gay men do go through a second coming out and re-identify as bisexual. These men may still overwhelmingly prefer men, but their orientation and identity are not exclusively towards men. And how their attraction to both sexes manifests differently as well.

I realize that some gay men who are closeted cowards say that they are bisexual before they come out as being gay but to apply this to all bisexual men would be as bad as saying that there's no such thing as a masculine gay man, and that all gay men are effeminate, highly promiscious self loathing men who cannot hold a relationship, take too many drugs like crystal meth, and are mostly into being passive bottoms during sex.

The worst are the gay men who once identified as bisexual, or even heterosexual before they realized that they are homosexual and now they use their own jaded experiences to say that bisexuality doesn't exist in other men at all or that it's rare just because they are not bisexual and they're gay.

No, not all gay men who once identifed as bisexual or heterosexual are like this. I've dated more than a few gay men like this, and they are not jaded about their past when they were either married to women or
sexually active with them even though they did not have any sexual attraction to women at all. Plus I've explained my sexuality to them and they understand it.

What strikes me as funny is how some gay men worship heterosexual men but it's all a pipe dream since straight/heterosexual men don't have sex with other men. At least not outside of prison for the most part.

Perhaps it is jealousy that makes gay men and lesbians have a scorn or fear towards bisexual men and women?

I've been told by more than a few gay men and lesbians that they wish that they were bisexual instead of homosexual because it would give them
more partners to choose from for sex and romance.

Then there's the idea of heterosexual privelages. Bisexual men and women contrary to what gay men and lesbians think, do not have it easier when it comes to these things or even when it comes to "passing" as heterosexual.

I know closeted bisexual men who are married to women and have just as bad or even worse issues about this as gay men do when they are closeted and married to women.

As for the idea that bisexuality will somehow break up or drive apart an all too important heterosexual marriage or a gay relationship, and if a monosexual is married to a person who comes out as bisexual this can actually strengthen the relationship and marriage.

NEWS FLASH! People who are both gay and heterosexual cheat on each other all the time, break up for the silliest reasons that do not have anything to do with their sexuality, I don't really know anyone that's heterosexual who actually really has a stable relationship or marriage, and same gender relationships and marriages seem more stable than opposite gender ones nowadays do.

Certainly some of us are 50-50 oriented, but there are many factors, and most of us fall somewhere to one side of that continium.

That doesn't make us, gay, straight, or any less bisexual.

Mostly I think being bisexual (or some other sexual orientation label akin to it such as queer) freaks people out because gender, sexual orientation, and gender roles are a critical peg in our society.

When gender and sexuality boundaries/roles/identities are irrelevant, the whole system might come falling down......:biggrin1:

 

[hud01]

The feminist movement really only had to do with boardroom skills, not bedroom skills. Although boardroom sex is hot ... I need a Fuckner !!! :tongue:

Well what is the difference, if you can say that women are different from men sexually, why can't I say that they are different, and not in a better way.

 

[bravestarr]

Mine is wrong?

I remember growing up, one of my teachers had defined an opinion as an idea or or thought formulated through education, experience, and personal memories. This same teacher also made sure to point out very clearly that an opinion could never be wrong.

I guess we have to redefine the word opinion in here. If we take it one step further and simply look at the definition of an opinion, that being;
An opinion is formed based on your perception, and your perception is your interpretation of a truth.

Why are people so quick to want to 'prove' others' opinions right or wrong anway? Is it simply to make one feel superior?; to make one's judgment more justified than another's?; do some feel that they always have to be right and someone else always has to be wrong?

Some things really are as simple as just an opinion whether someone likes it or not.

Bravestarr and others:

Of course you are entitled to your opinions even if they are wrong, bigoted, outdated, and quite frankly total bullshit.

It doesn't mean that I have to sit back and take it, or play the passive victim.

It's entirely possible to be bisexual that is sexually and perhaps even romantically attracted to both sexes.

Just like it's possible to be more than one gender or be a gender that is not male or female.

Actually yes bisexuality is a stable sexual orientation it is just as stable as
being gay or straight is. No this has nothing to do with politics, queer theory, the idea that sexuality is a choice, the false concept that bisexuals are confused, or the false concept that all or most bisexuals are really closeted gay men and closeted lesbians.

I really don't give a fuck if some close minded breeders and gay men who don't understand bisexuality think that I'm gay as I can easily pass as both gay and heterosexual but I'm neither as the biggest mistake people make about bisexuality is comparing it to monosexuality when there are 1,000s of flavours of it and everyone is different and some bisexuals are more or even mostly into one gender than the other one for both sex and romance but it does not make them straight or gay.

Also you can be bisexual and only have or want to have sex with the same or opposite gender when both genders are there, or you can be bisexual and be a complete virgin to all genders or just one gender.

Not all bisexual people enjoy 3 ways either.

Some bisexals are not into vanilla sex at all with one sex and just want to do kink/BDSM with that gender and they are OK with not doing any BDSM/kink with the other sex. Some bisexuals fall in love with both sexes and some do not and only fall in love with one sex.

Other bisexuals frequently prefer one sex over the other when it comes to sexual attraction and romance/partnership but this does not make them
straight or gay. Some are into vanilla sex only with both sexes and are not into kink/BDSM at all really.

Also some bisexuals consider themselves to be more than one orientation such as being Bi-hetero, a Bi-Dyke, or being a Bi-Gay male. No it's not confusion at all or anything like that.

I'm not confused about my sexuality even if certain people on here think that I'm a closeted gay man or that I'll eventually become fully homosexual just because some ignorant biphobic homosexuals have told them otherwise or just because they personally think that bisexual men will eventually come out as being gay since this is the only way bisexuality makes sense to them.

I have my preferences as we all do when it comes to who we are and are not attracted to but the world is my sexual and romantic oyster and I desire sex and can fall in love with men, women, Transmen/Transwomen, Intersexed, and Genderqueer people too.

I like 3 ways and I frequently fantasize about having sex with both a man and a woman at the same time. I'm also quite comfortable having sex with two men at the same time. I also fantasize about Transpeople and people who are not the male or female gender.

I've had fantasies about getting a group of men, women, and Trans people together in a room and having it totally dark and having everyone experience sexual pleasure together. Obviously I am not going to do that since I'm not promiscious, I don't like sex with strangers, and this is not the time before HIV/AIDS was discovered.

I'm comfortable doing vanilla sex (sex that does not involve any kink/BDSM or fetishes at all), if a partner is not into any kink/BDSM at all; but I'm also very into kink/BDSM and giving sensations, control during sex, giving up control during sex, being Dominant during sex, being submissive during sex, being a switch (both Dominant/submissive during sex), and also being a Sir/Master, and slave/boy/pup during sex interests me too.

OK having a thin high femme Mistress or switch interests me too and letting her do consensual "rape" scenes, knife play, pup play, tit torture, bondage, hot wax, and other types of BDSM to me and switch back and forth if we're both switches and into the same kinks.

I've never put my penis inside a woman's vagina. Let's just say I'm not into vanilla sex with women and there's nothing wrong with this as I do kink/BDSM safe, sane, and consensually with like minded adults.

I've just put fingers and a tongue inside women's vaginas and for the most part I do not want to always put my penis inside a woman's vagina. I'm into using toys both on/in a woman but as far as vaginal intercourse goes at this time in my life I'd only be interested in doing that with another man. I have no desire to 69 with a woman or have a woman suck my cock yet I love to service a woman orally with my mouth. I've had more than a few very hot sex dreams about fisting a woman's vagina and about pleasuring a woman orally with a male partner/lover or I'll have sex dreams about double penetrating a woman with a male partner and then I fuck his ass while he fucks her.

Are the monosexuals confused yet? Keep reading.

Continued on second post since the text was too long on this one.

 

[LeeEJ]

Bravestarr and others:

Of course you are entitled to your opinions even if they are wrong, bigoted, outdated, and quite frankly total bullshit.

It doesn't mean that I have to sit back and take it, or play the passive victim.

Don't start thinking that I'm "victimizing" you or that I'm full of shit.

I think that the degrees of sexuality are too gray for anyone to try to categorize.

Of all the LGBT (and straight) people I've known, I can't say that their sexuality could be scored in just a couple categories. I've even had one girl tell me she was omnisexual.

So, yeah, I think that bisexuality exists. I also think that people's preferences can change over time, whether they're reacting to outside influences or finding it within themselves.

Lastly, I think that a person's romantic feelings will find an individual on whom to focus. In most cases, the recipient is either male or female -- and I'd think that that is where we'd get the idea that bisexuality doesn't actually exist.

To me, romantic and sexual feelings aren't necessarily the same and aren't always directed towards the same person. Just speaking for myself, I've met women who I'd love to get naked with, but wouldn't even want to accompany to the bookstore.

 

[Countryguy63]

While opinions may not be "wrong" in and among themselves, when they are used to judge others, then they cease being opinions

 

[bravestarr]

I totally agree with you.

I believe in opposing opinions.

While opinions may not be "wrong" in and among themselves, when they are used to judge others, then they cease being opinions

 

[LeeEJ]

While opinions may not be "wrong" in and among themselves, when they are used to judge others, then they cease being opinions

Agreed, with the knowledge that, just a couple blocks from me, is the Supreme Court, which essentially has opinions about law.

As long as everyone leaves the bedroom stuff where it belongs and not make policy because of it, we should be OK.

 

[Countryguy63]

From what I have gathered from all of the member's opinions, reactions, examples in here is Bisexuality is a unique sexual orientation.

Bisexuality can be, in terms of feelings of attraction and/or viewed as behaviour

With these differences chaos reigns. Dialog is very difficult. Debates can be unproductive and people should always first decide on a common definition of the term before proceeding with any discussion.

Ok, this will teach me, no matter how long it takes, always read all posts before responding. The above from you, reflects differently than the others that I have read.

You have mentioned shame, denial, and (not a quote) not being ready to admit to being gay, in many of your posts when dicussing bisexuality. You are careful to say "many" or other similar terms, but the underlying intention seemed to be clear. It is common to read an "opinion" and personally relate it to yourself. I believe that's where some can et offended y "opinions".

Those were both part of my past, however through experience and many years of counseling, I have realized and fully accepted that I am, without a doubt, bisexual. I have posted on this many times, but there are different and unique aspects that I get, and enjoy from both men and women. I am definitely attracted to both.

 

[bravestarr]

an excerpt from what I have wrote before .. I am posting it on a separate thread to give respect on others.

I am do aware that this is a touchy subject for one reason: People who are bisexual are being told that their feelings/sexuality are not valid.

It's sort of like being told you're not really a woman if you can't have kids, or that all real men cant sustain an erection and please their woman in bed, or whatever.

Saying that bisexuality doesn't exist to bisexuals is negating their experiences, and relegating their opinions to second-rate.

 

[D_ExJagSack]

This thread needs to die... "blah blah blah, yackety smackety"... Bi sexuals exist!!! END OF STORY!!!! *groan*