Interacialationships

[Section8]

Where did you get that from? That statement is far from true. I've grown up in a town where interaciallationships are common. My school was about 40% white, 50% black, and 10% other. As far as I'm concerned there are probably on average more hot girls in the black community, and that is coming from someone who likes both. Of course if you are racist or only like white girls your going to think there are more attractive white girls in said community. Have you ever been to the hood or to a community where there are black people? There are PLENTY of beautiful women to go around. More so than in a white community with the same amount of girls. Maybe because black girls mature faster I don't know but it seems to be the norm here in north Jersey.

Is it me or is an overweight black woman far more attractive than an overweight white woman? The overweight black woman also seems to have that I-am-a-big-girl-proud-of-it-and-can-give-you-some-good-loving attitude, whereas the same white woman would be far more insecure and unattractive in my book. Does anyone else feel this way?

Its you. I happen to think curvy white girls are very nice.

 

[D_Lodovicus Mountmary]

I'd love to read that study! I actually found that quite often than not I'm attracted to other races other than mine. Whether Latinas or Asians or blacks. Something about being with someone totally different that is beautiful in my mind. Ebony and Ivory...what a beautiful combination!

 

[B_NineInchCock_160IQ]

Skipping over the drama from later posts and addressing only the initial post: I think there are things to like about women of all "races"... if that's the label you want to attach to it. One of the things I like most about this area (Northern Virginia, DC and Fairfax suburbs) is that it is, by some counts, the most diverse area (culturally/ethnically/religiously) of the most diverse country in the world. It keeps things interesting.

I don't prefer women who might be designated "non-White" to those who would be designated "White", and therefore grouped together with me in my "race" since that's how most would label me. I do, however, strongly prefer variety. I may date one "black" girl, one "hispanic" girl, one "asian" girl and one "White" girl and then other people are going to tell me that I must prefer dating outside of my own race, which isn't really true.

 

[naughty]

David,

Your comments prove that you, not Stud Hunter, are probably in need of enlightenment. She may not have all of the information exactly correct, but not in need of your disdain. LOOK AT COLIN POWELL! The man , regardless of what you call him, has a high percentage of white blood in his veins. Both of his parents may be called African American or Carribean American and be of partial African descent but neither negates the other. Having family members who range from ebony to ivory know how ridiculous this social construct is.

Umm where did you get the idea that Colin Powell is even part white what to speak of being "mostly" white? i'm pretty sure both of his parents are of African decent. Although based on his skin tone his parents likley have mixed backgrounds. I don't think you know what you are talking about here.

 

[naughty]

PLEASE! We know in an ideal since there is just the human race , in practice what you are calling an opionion has affected millions of lives if not world history. Whatever you chose to call it , the question of race is alive and doing well across the world.

There is no "white" is his point. There are no other races and no white races. It's all just opinion. Saying one person is 30% white and another is 35% white is arbitrary at best. That statement has no meaning in fact.

It's the equivalent statement to "He's 30% glpudilisp." You may think there's a glpudilisp, but no one can agree what one is. Basically everyone makes up their own definition of it and then starts with the death camps and crap. That's "race" in a nutshell. Just a made up thing like glpudilisp.

 

[naughty]

Gisella,

Most of the people of full to partial African descent within the continental USA have ancestors who have been here at least 150 years and in many cases more like 200 to 250. Those who came prior to the end of slavery, were not immigrants in the sense that you experience. Nor were the ancestors of Brazilian peoples of color. They were transported against their wills to the Americas and served as forced labor.When we go to other countries we are seen as Americans. I am proud of all of the parts that make me but I am an American and it is in this vein that I seek my sense of acceptance.

I appreciate what you did have to say however.

Bare with me people...bcause I'm thinking and trying to organize my view of things..but about the way I see the nature of view of race in the USA...:is mostly about color: black and white....I dont want even touch what white standings..but in my mind what I see as me and immigrant:

Just imagine..you have to be forced to immigrate because of slave traffic...they snap you from your village your tribe your ethinic family...observe the exchanges that goes inside this type of community their custumes and etc...than if you survived the ship journey..you enter a new land and etc...them it starts your new identity as a bought slave and all the attrocities and heavy struggles that goes with it. Inside your heart you do cry for your people, home,tribe and etc...you do speak a diffrent dialet than others that are in same slave situation than you..you have even to start to learn differents dialets to talk to them beside you (who looks like you as 'colored' but they are not familiar just because of that)... until you learn the new land tongue...and time and generations goes by...by now your inside identity is soaked with struggles and you are being put apart and diferenciated because the color the covers your body skin...doesn't matter if many mothers in different times gave births in the land..still you are somehow looked as inferior and laws are made to make sure you stay in this condition..because of your color. Than some improvements are made some changes takes place...you even start to call yourself a proud African plus American...as some way to grab an identity for yourself you embrace the whole blackness of a continent for you...but what you did not experienced and your ancestrals did and many more in this world knows by heart...is that even when we are proud of our continents, we do have a 'mother' nation that in reality depending of cultures is really a village and a tribe..very unique among all others near by...you could walk many distances to get water and pass by people of same color as you..but they were not even familiar not 'your' people your tribe...

Than what I think in all this situation black Americans because of so many things they learn, experienced, suffer about their color they see themselves as 'black' in a foggy mirror of distortions..they lost inside the touch of their villages long ago no information left about that and some may feel incomplete...but than I become emotional because I may know and feel as an immigrant and woman that it is a deep lost of identity our unique roots and as much babies I give bith in a different land I would hope they are embraced as beautiful as unique as having the same value as others mothers babies...and they feel they 'belong' and are allowed to be proud of me and my unique heritage and ethinicity that involves many things among them different tones of skins, that may show outside them!

But than is just my own personal sense of things inside my head and heart based in what I experienced and see.I have no ideia what others see,feel inside. I think is very cool the sense of villages, ethnicity etc we learn one anothers uniqueness as going to different villages, making fires, grilling food, exchange stories and when there is sparkles hmmm making love with the delicious hunk native ... sky full of stars and the full moon.mmmm...:hug:

 

[naughty]

NIN,

Why are people who are legitimately expressing their opinions seen as having "drama"? Thank goodness at this point in history you are allowed to date, mate and berate whoever you so wish....

Skipping over the drama from later posts and addressing only the initial post: I think there are things to like about women of all "races"... if that's the label you want to attach to it. One of the things I like most about this area (Northern Virginia, DC and Fairfax suburbs) is that it is, by some counts, the most diverse area (culturally/ethnically/religiously) of the most diverse country in the world. It keeps things interesting.

I don't prefer women who might be designated "non-White" to those who would be designated "White", and therefore grouped together with me in my "race" since that's how most would label me. I do, however, strongly prefer variety. I may date one "black" girl, one "hispanic" girl, one "asian" girl and one "White" girl and then other people are going to tell me that I must prefer dating outside of my own race, which isn't really true.

 

[Gisella]

Thank you Naughty

This is exactly the point that I may did not made clear: You are an American and many others for generations ...

And the context African is used in the US is to mean not just heritage but color black. But than in Africa any color person born there is African too, even if they are white, yellow, brown whatever color. We sometimes insist in keeping classifing people mostly by color instead of cultures or decide to play color blind because of some silly PC.

Than as an immigrant in US my kids born here will be Americans and as much I will teach then about Brasil and etc they will not be Brasilian Americans..just Americans with raibow mixing. Is this acceptance that I want for them too. :smile:

Gisella,

Most of the people of full to partial African descent within the continental USA have ancestors who have been here at least 150 years and in many cases more like 200 to 250. Those who came prior to the end of slavery, were not immigrants in the sense that you experience. Nor were the ancestors of Brazilian peoples of color. They were transported against their wills to the Americas and served as forced labor.When we go to other countries we are seen as Americans. I am proud of all of the parts that make me but I am an American and it is in this vein that I seek my sense of acceptance.

I appreciate what you did have to say however.

 

[B_NineInchCock_160IQ]

NIN,

Why are people who are legitimately expressing their opinions seen as having "drama"? Thank goodness at this point in history you are allowed to date, mate and berate whoever you so wish....

I am thankful for that, at least as far as it's true. If two people are expressing contrary opinions I think that's enough to call it drama. Were you somehow taking offense at this characterization? I was merely putting trying to put into context what I was about to say, as it had little to do with the majority of the thread, which has shifted somewhat off-topic from the original post I was replying to.

 

[Gain on 10]

I'd like to clarify my thoughts. There is such a thing as "race". It's a social construct. It's like a religion. Science says it's not true, but everyone believes in it.

When people talk to me about "race", I know what they mean. I know what race is, and it's a dangerous religion, basically. It's a made-up thing. Everyone may believe it, but it's not true. Not scientifically.

I think it's better to say I like certain features a lot. I like what could be described as olive toned skin and Native American features or Aztec features. I like the higher cheeks and I love the nose. The dark eyes drop me like a gunshot. And dark hair. The woman that looks like that could be from any of 100 cultures, regions, or ethnicities.

So, it follows that I love Aztec and Native American women. But, I also love Bollywood and Indian women because they share similar features sometimes. It's less to do with a particular "race" and more to do with a set of features I prefer. I've also seen Asian women that met these requirements and were quite stunning to me.

So, for me it's more about features and less about what "race" they are.

Also, I didn't care for one type of girl, then I met one that I really liked, and then after that I lvoe those types of women. So, it's a work in progress and I am always learning to appreciate different women all the time. As was said, beauty exists in all cultures and races.

 

[Gain on 10]

PLEASE! We know in an ideal since there is just the human race , in practice what you are calling an opionion has affected millions of lives if not world history. Whatever you chose to call it , the question of race is alive and doing well across the world.

Agreed. But it's a dangerous thing to play with. It starts off so noble, and then always turns into segregation and bias. It never ends well. Ever.

 

[Gisella]

I am thankful for that, at least as far as it's true. If two people are expressing contrary opinions I think that's enough to call it drama. Were you somehow taking offense at this characterization? I was merely putting trying to put into context what I was about to say, as it had little to do with the majority of the thread, which has shifted somewhat off-topic from the original post I was replying to.

I do think each one of us have our own personal experiences that may differ very much one from the other...

Many interacialrelationships are not dealings only about colors, but ethnicity cultures and etc...if you are dealing with same culture but different races is much 'easier' than same situation adding different culture context..each case is a case.

I have no ideia about your personal experiences, but believe me I had some interacial interculture ones that issues shifts all over the place as people in relationships are trying to know one another ways and etc. Many times is not 'exotic' as in movies..not for the fainted at heart...:biggrin1:

Talking about real drama..for this motive my option was 'Mediterraneans' because of the commom drama that may naturally going on between us... :tongue:

 

[Gain on 10]

I do think each one of us have our own personal experiences that may differ very much one from the other...

Many interacialrelationships are not dealings only about colors, but ethnicity cultures and etc...if you are dealing with same culture but different races is much 'easier' than same situation adding different culture context..each case is a case.

I have no ideia about your personal experiences, but believe me I had some interacial interculture ones that issues shifts all over the place as people in relationships are trying to know one another ways and etc. Many times is not 'exotic' as in movies..not for the fainted at heart...:biggrin1:

Talking about real drama..for this motive my option was 'Mediterraneans' because of the commom drama that may naturally going on between us... :tongue:

Yes, my experinces are similar. I'm in an interracial marriage, with mixed race children. The issues we face and struggle with are the dramas around family and role expectations because we were raised with different expectations because of our different family styles. That's what really bogs you down. I never thought about my wife as another "race" until I started sending out wedding invitations and realized a lot of my family might not be so open about her ethnicity. It was all fine. We brought a lot of people together, acutally.

But in my wife's family, her father cooked dinner. In my family my mother cooked dinner. In our family, NO ONE cooks dinner. But yeah, you end up fighting about different expecations more than ethnic issues.

 

[B_NineInchCock_160IQ]

I do think each one of us have our own personal experiences that may differ very much one from the other...

Many interacialrelationships are not dealings only about colors, but ethnicity cultures and etc...if you are dealing with same culture but different races is much 'easier' than same situation adding different culture context..each case is a case.

I have no ideia about your personal experiences, but believe me I had some interacial interculture ones that issues shifts all over the place as people in relationships are trying to know one another ways and etc. Many times is not 'exotic' as in movies..not for the fainted at heart...:biggrin1:

Talking about real drama..for this motive my option was 'Mediterraneans' because of the commom drama that may naturally going on between us... :tongue:

This is all true. But Heather's original post was a simple straightforward question: does anyone desire to date outside of their own race? That's all I was responding to. Thus the caveat at the beginning of my post.

 

[danerain]

Yes, my experinces are similar. I'm in an interracial marriage, with mixed race children. The issues we face and struggle with are the dramas around family and role expectations because we were raised with different expectations because of our different family styles. That's what really bogs you down. I never thought about my wife as another "race" until I started sending out wedding invitations and realized a lot of my family might not be so open about her ethnicity. It was all fine. We brought a lot of people together, acutally.

But in my wife's family, her father cooked dinner. In my family my mother cooked dinner. In our family, NO ONE cooks dinner. But yeah, you end up fighting about different expecations more than ethnic issues.

No one cooks dinner? Is that a metaphor?

 

[Gain on 10]

LOL, I cook sometimes, she does sometimes, and our oldest son does sometimes and we eat out a LOT.

What I meant was we never resolved it, actually. But I tried to say it in a funny way. You are right, it was mostly metaphor. But at times literally true also.

 

[Gisella]

This is all true. But Heather's original post was a simple straightforward question: does anyone desire to date outside of their own race? That's all I was responding to. Thus the caveat at the beginning of my post.

"Ladies, penis size aside, do you find that you choose men of your own race or do you tend to pick men of another color? Do you feel there are reasons behind your decision of color/ethnicity/race or do you feel your decision is solely based on their personality and compatability with you?"

Hey NIC.. when someone asks me: "do you feel there are reasons, decisions.." twice I'm free to feel and go all over expressing what I feel about that.

And even when 'feel' is not in the question I keep expressing feelings, views, assumptions and facts - my way of expressing...

I can not be straightfoard answering most things...its impossible to me.

And I dont think Heather will mind people expressing what they feel... is a deep issue at least to me and I do have some experiences about that.

 

[danerain]

LOL, I cook sometimes, she does sometimes, and our oldest son does sometimes and we eat out a LOT.

What I meant was we never resolved it, actually. But I tried to say it in a funny way. You are right, it was mostly metaphor. But at times literally true also.

Okay, cool, I didn't want to inferr the wrong meaning. When I first read it ai thought you were commenting on (nicest way I can think to put this) unresolved isssues about how your beliefs about adult sex roles relate to your upbringing.

Arrgh, damn you, Into into Development class!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Gisella]

Yes, my experinces are similar. I'm in an interracial marriage, with mixed race children. The issues we face and struggle with are the dramas around family and role expectations because we were raised with different expectations because of our different family styles. That's what really bogs you down. I never thought about my wife as another "race" until I started sending out wedding invitations and realized a lot of my family might not be so open about her ethnicity. It was all fine. We brought a lot of people together, acutally.

But in my wife's family, her father cooked dinner. In my family my mother cooked dinner. In our family, NO ONE cooks dinner. But yeah, you end up fighting about different expecations more than ethnic issues.

Cool..is she a US born?

Do you think if she was not her culture will add more different things or not?

 

[B_NineInchCock_160IQ]

"Ladies, penis size aside, do you find that you choose men of your own race or do you tend to pick men of another color? Do you feel there are reasons behind your decision of color/ethnicity/race or do you feel your decision is solely based on their personality and compatability with you?"

Hey NIC.. when someone asks me: "do you feel there are reasons, decisions.." twice I'm free to feel and go all over expressing what I feel about that.

And even when 'feel' is not in the question I keep expressing feelings, views, assumptions and facts - my way of expressing...

I can not be straightfoard answering most things...its impossible to me.

And I dont think Heather will mind people expressing what they feel... is a deep issue at least to me and I do have some experiences about that.

Christ, nevermind.