Mr. MoT - how about a smooch instead of a shove?
:kiss:
smooches just keep on giving *returns the returned smooches*
If only your percentages were slightly more in my favour. *sigh* :tongue: I could do this all night! :kiss: I return your smooch and raise you a hug. :hug:
*snuzzles* match for hugs, raise snuzzles and call. :biggrin1:
i got two queens and 7s.
Everything you have said is totally valid, of course. It's why I flip back and forth on my opinion. You know. Being part of the population PP originally planned to erase. It can also be argued that they have been, and continue to be successful in using their services to eliminate my folks. I can see the issue from both sides, and just can't seem to make a permanent decision.organ transplants/field surgeries/blood transfusions moved decades ahead during the six years of WWII.
the seed can be planted in horror but it might grow yield something sweet.
PP started out with the intent of culling a generation of minorities and a socioeconomically disadvantaged group of people.
now, PP is often the only medical care available to women and children in most American cities. without the sliding scale pricing a large number of women would have no option other than continuing unwanted pregnancies without any prenatal care at all.
the testings, treatment and education programs has slowed the spread of STIs for young folk with assess to the clinics.
sometimes my ethics get a little bruised, like serving up meat to the homeless.. but in the end my reservations ain't worth denying another person services they need or are entitled to.
is like the clinic offering sterilization to women with a history of prostitution/drug use or women already having more than one child in social services. there was heated debated on both sides of the fence. is not an easy answer, and so many variables ya could argue until everyone ran of breath.. and i am not entirely sure how i feel about the program. i stilled made sure the women who wanted to make use of the program could.
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Without sex education, lots of accidental pregnancies occur. Admittedly, some of those people may have ignored advice; but still, I can't stomach the thought of a child growing up as an 'accident' with no love from the parents/adoption services. I'm not saying that these children are all unloved, but some are. Another example would be rape victims - they should not be pressured into having the child of a stranger. If someone feels they are not ready to handle the responsibility of being a parent, then they should have multiple options open to them. I'm a fool though, so what do I know? Haha, this thread has reminded of the time when I received a shove for sharing my pro-choice beliefs. Good times.
The reason Planned Parenthood has always offered abortion is because of Ms. Sanger. She specifically wrote and said out loud that they would carry out their agenda in the guise of good, and dupe black preachers and community leaders, and well-spoken men from poor communities into spreading news of the organizations good works, and Christian support. She wanted blacks and the poor to get abortions in large numbers. And they do, with Planned Parenthood's help. You see, I'm not convinced that the Planned Parenthood of today isn't Ms. Sanger's organization of yesteryear. And for that reason, though I have used the clinics twice myself, (though not for abortions) I remain skeptical.AE, I understand why you're on the fence.
I look at it this way. I don't stand with Margaret Sanger, who died over 50 years ago and who hasn't been in control of Planned Parenthood for a very long time. I stand with the good Planned Parenthood does today.
Yes, a person with an evil agenda created an organization to carry out her evil plan. Ironically, not only did that organization fail to succeed at what she intended it to do, it has helped millions of women, many of whom were her intended targets. Do I support the founder's intentions? Hell no! In fact, there's a kind of enjoyable satisfaction to knowing that the organization not only failed, but that it benefits the very people she intended harm towards.
But that's which side of the fence I'm on.
A few months ago, I had to teach a grown man (who wasn't even fucking me) on an internet forum that the way he uses condoms is improper, and the reason his wife keeps getting knocked up. You knew whatever you knew at 10, because of sex education from somewhere.No one needs sex education to know that sex is the cause of pregnancy. I knew that at 10 years old and I sure as hell wasn't having sex then (and I doubt many kids are having sex at that age now). I think kids are growing up even faster nowadays - they know about sex and pregnancy.
Rape is definitely one of the exceptions I was talking about in my earlier post. A rape victim should undoubtedly be able to decide their own fate.
Too much drama? I agree. It was way too much drama that their founder didn't want people who look like you to exist. This organization was built to erase you.I'm not going to pretend that i know alot about PP, but from what I have gathered from your reactions, its all way too much drama it seems to me to oppose them so much.
Search youtube for her name, and hear Ms. Sanger speak for herself, in context.
I don't know. Perhaps, as per the direction of its founder, the organization has implemented its agenda by hiding it in precisely the ways Sanger recommended. Perhaps someone saw its potential for good when Sanger died, and proceeded to turn things around. I have no idea. And that's why I'm on the fence.AE...I will. Thank you.
But what does that mean for PP today?
No one needs sex education to know that sex is the cause of pregnancy. I knew that at 10 years old and I sure as hell wasn't having sex then (and I doubt many kids are having sex at that age now). I think kids are growing up even faster nowadays - they know about sex and pregnancy.
Rape is definitely one of the exceptions I was talking about in my earlier post. A rape victim should undoubtedly be able to decide their own fate.
A few months ago, I had to teach a grown man (who wasn't even fucking me) on an internet forum that the way he uses condoms is improper, and the reason his wife keeps getting knocked up. You knew whatever you knew at 10, because of sex education from somewhere.