Nicholas demulder (fitness model - aka sean costin/max)

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Chadlpsg said:
Linked and also distinct

We do ourselves a disservice when we conflate these terms and obsess over hetero-identified performers
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They should not all be conflated. Agreed. And in general people on Lpsg care way too much about labels and also about straight men as well. I kinda get it but also don't. Lol these kind of inane Debates will never stop unfortunately
 
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bigboaster said:
They should not all be conflated. Agreed. And in general people on Lpsg care way too much about labels and also about straight men as well. I kinda get it but also don't. Lol these kind of inane Debates will never stop unfortunately
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The obsession with straight men really drags this site
 
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Johnzy said:
People want sugar daddies for MONEY you guys, not for cuddles. goddman the naiveness you really live in your own world lmfao
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Who said anything about the sugar daddy portion of things? Read to comprehend. That’s not what we were discussing AT ALL.
 
Jjiceman said:
100%. Can we keep this same level of engagement for the femme, non-muscular and/or non-beige OF performers?
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Jjiceman said:
100%. Can we keep this same level of engagement for the femme, non-muscular and/or non-beige OF performers?
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“How someone self-identifies with their sexual orientation has absolutely nothing to do with anyone else. ”

Yet, people (gay people) obsess over straight men. It’s a problem? The points I made were off base? Got it.
 
Jjiceman said:
@tjh1204 Yes. And Yes.
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If you want men to stop focusing on straight men and their toxicity, then you have to address the dynamic at play. To say that it doesn’t matter how men self identify, then turn and say that we obsess over straight men is counterintuitive/contradictory!! They cancel one another out. I’m saying that the things he said matters because of the toxic cycles gay men have with straight men surrounding self identification. Those denials you’re stating fuel the cycle.
 
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tjh1204 said:
If you want men to stop focusing on straight men and their toxicity, then you have to address the dynamic at play. To say that it doesn’t matter how men self identify, then turn and say that we obsess over straight men is counterintuitive/contradictory!! They cancel one another out. I’m saying that the things he said matters because of the toxic cycles gay men have with straight men surrounding self identification. Those denials you’re stating fuel the cycle.
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This feels like word salad
 
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@tjh1204 Is it contradictory? Or are you are proving my point by 1) putting far too much weight into this non-gay man's sexuality and 2)obsessing over how he should or not react to people conflating his sexual history with his sexual preferences?
 
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Taty said:
...and those who have girlfriends are white men. You can not apply these standards to this situations due to the fact Sean is not white and prefers women of color based on the conversations I had with him. No woman of color is gonna adjust herself to accept a man who has been penetrated in his ass, has sucked dick, and has had it filmed where it will live on the internet forever. Not only that as Sean stated he often wonders what "her" family will think about all he has done. What one group of women will accept from a man is not evenly attributed to all cultures and communities.

Many gays often live in these delusions of fantasy. But the truth is Sean hates the gays, he hates he has to do gay porn to make money. He hates communicating with homosexual men.
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Are you a personal friend of this man? Because you sure type like one.
Moreover, why do you speak for All Women of Color related to which man they choose or deny?
If the man has problems I personally hope he gets the specific help he needs.
Again - if you claim him as a friend you should give him a little more grace than what you have posted above.
 
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Taty said:
If these dynamics existed a Black downlow community would not exist. Black women would not have the highest AIDS/HIV transmission rate. So why do these element exist? Because Black men who are bisexual feel they can't come out of the closet due to the culture. No Black woman wants a Bisexual man. It's look as a weakness. Yeah, Black women are willing to have a gay buddie... but to sleep with a man who sleeps with other men is a monstrosity. And this is why Black bisexual men remain in the closest; sleeping with men privately and claiming women publicly.

No, matter the position of Black women in the society Black women have standards. No matter how they look, no matter their status. Such communities such a Red Pill ect that attacks Black women for these standards would exist if Black women were liken to lower their standards. Women of color are not accepting of Bisexual men for relationships.
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HIV is transmitted by heterosexual men. This is especially the case on the entire continent of Africa.
Why do you believe that you are situated to speak for all Black American women?
 
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Not everyone that has sex with men is gay. Very simple concept, he enjoys the sex, he gets paid for the sex but he does not seek an emotional and loving relationship with another man. Simply, the trinity of a gay man: Sexually Gay, Mentally Gay and Emotionally Gay. You must have all three to be a Gay person, if not then you are either Bi or just there for the fun of it
 
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c1omr said:
Not everyone that has sex with men is gay. Very simple concept, he enjoys the sex, he gets paid for the sex but he does not seek an emotional and loving relationship with another man. Simply, the trinity of a gay man: Sexually Gay, Mentally Gay and Emotionally Gay. You must have all three to be a Gay person, if not then you are either Bi or just there for the fun of it
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That's a good way to put it. I'm going to steal that.
 
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c1omr said:
Not everyone that has sex with men is gay. Very simple concept, he enjoys the sex, he gets paid for the sex but he does not seek an emotional and loving relationship with another man. Simply, the trinity of a gay man: Sexually Gay, Mentally Gay and Emotionally Gay. You must have all three to be a Gay person, if not then you are either Bi or just there for the fun of it
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That certainly isn't universally true but go ahead anyway and just speak for all gays I guess? Labels are what a person choose for themselves for whatever reason. It's simply a means of identification.

It doesn't have to make sense to you or anyone else's view (and it often doesn't lol) a gay man could be only emotionally or only physically attracted to men and he would be no less gay if that's how he chose to identify.
 
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Jjiceman said:
100% disagree. How someone self-identifies with their sexual orientation has absolutely nothing to do with anyone else. He could have internalized homophobia. But could also just be G4P. The problem with gay sex work is that people don't realize that it is sex WORK. No one bats an eye when an openly gay porn star is performing in scenes with someone that isn't their real life partner. That they can go to work, get the job done and come home and completely detach themselves from their onscreen persona. But if the gender identities of their costars change then all of a sudden the performer is closeted, or has internalized homophobia, or they're really gay but just don't know it yet. Let people dictate to you what their sexual orientation is and treat them accordingly.

There is way too much projecting, simping and parasocial relationships in general nowadays but I think gay men do this more than others. Your fav OF models are real people that when they log off they may or may not be how they appear online. Now I do think Sean/Nick probably has a lot to work through in therapy. But if he don't want to be the spokesperson for the gays bc he doesn't identify as gay then let him go.
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ooooh yeah. There are A LOT of homophobic guys on OnlyFans that makes thousands because of this. Wishful thinking at its best. You just have sex with a guy FOR THE FUCKING MONEY and all the gays think deep down you are gay because that's what they want to believe ( the fox and the grapes... anyone??).
I keep saying gays are fucking stupid. nobody believes me.

Another guy here thinks you are gay because you want a sugar daddy. THEY ARE DOING IT FOR THA CASH. What is it so hard to understand?!
 
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