Nicholas demulder (fitness model - aka sean costin/max)

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He should stop the search for a sugar daddy, start getting plowed on a regular on his OF, go do some TimTales scenes, etc and he would be the biggest OF star on the gay scene. He already does that stuff now just not consistently. He'll post actual sex scenes on his OF (that are hot btw) and then delete them after a day or two. I unsubscribed bc he was too inconsistent. And then he would rail against his followers for being cheap and not sticking around. I get that he might be uncomfortable with people finding out about his life choices, but it's pretty well known that he does this type of stuff by now right? Lean all the way in and he'll be successful. OF is very lucrative for the genetically gifted and he's obviously in that group. If he can't make OF work for him then that's on him.

Although I will say in one of his rants he exposed one of the guys that I used to mess around with in TX. Which is karma bc that guy was scum and I'm not nearly as hot as Sean, so if he got burned too then that guy is just hot garbage.
 
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He should stop the search for a sugar daddy, start getting plowed on a regular on his OF, go do some TimTales scenes, etc and he would be the biggest OF star on the gay scene. He already does that stuff now just not consistently. He'll post actual sex scenes on his OF (that are hot btw) and then delete them after a day or two. I unsubscribed bc he was too inconsistent. And then he would rail against his followers for being cheap and not sticking around. I get that he might be uncomfortable with people finding out about his life choices, but it's pretty well known that he does this type of stuff by now right? Lean all the way in and he'll be successful. OF is very lucrative for the genetically gifted and he's obviously in that group. If he can't make OF work for him then that's on him.

Although I will say in one of his rants he exposed one of the guys that I used to mess around with in TX. Which is karma bc that guy was scum and I'm not nearly as hot as Sean, so if he got burned too then that guy is just hot garbage.
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THIS!!! He’s very attractive and that ass is BEAUTIFUL!! It’s shocking how bad he is at all this. He could be so successful but he’s too concerned about what women (or men) will think or say. There’s a lot of straight guys that do gay content or bi content and are successful. He just needs to be comfortable in his own skin
 
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Jjiceman said:
He should stop the search for a sugar daddy, start getting plowed on a regular on his OF, go do some TimTales scenes, etc and he would be the biggest OF star on the gay scene. He already does that stuff now just not consistently. He'll post actual sex scenes on his OF (that are hot btw) and then delete them after a day or two. I unsubscribed bc he was too inconsistent. And then he would rail against his followers for being cheap and not sticking around. I get that he might be uncomfortable with people finding out about his life choices, but it's pretty well known that he does this type of stuff by now right? Lean all the way in and he'll be successful. OF is very lucrative for the genetically gifted and he's obviously in that group. If he can't make OF work for him then that's on him.

Although I will say in one of his rants he exposed one of the guys that I used to mess around with in TX. Which is karma bc that guy was scum and I'm not nearly as hot as Sean, so if he got burned too then that guy is just hot garbage.
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The casual way you spilled tea :blush::emoji_tea:
 
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Jhonnie said:
This isn’t really accurate, he’d be bisexual being that he only dates women. Having sex with a man doesn’t “make you gay”
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:emoji_ballot_box_with_check: and why are we claiming someone who denies us? Let the man be non-gay! We are not enlisting! :emoji_unamused:
 
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Jjiceman said:
Let everyone self-identify. If he don't want to self-identify as gay that's fine with me. Water off a duck's back.
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Unfortunately it’s not water off a ducks back. It’s a public perpetuation of homophobia. The shame and self hatred is projected on young boys and we grow up repeating that cycle. He’s now passing that trauma along to everyone who views it. Being primed and conditioned to watch guys like him only to have them tell us that we are worthless because we’ve got a penis attached to our bodies and we like men. A mere exposure to that messaging by happenstance permeates the psyche. The more it happens the more traumatizing it is.

Yet, gay men and “straight” identifying men have been locked in this endless tête-à-tête of criminalization. So, just like the homophobic jock in high school or the school bully, he’s harming men. He’s broken himself, but that toxicity is getting all into and onto us as well. He thinks he’s reclaiming his power by telling us he feels worthless so the words of the community can’t hurt him. We tell ourselves that his words don’t hurt or trigger us as well. In large part that is untrue.
 
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tjh1204 said:
Unfortunately it’s not water off a ducks back. It’s a public perpetuation of homophobia. The shame and self hatred is projected on young boys and we grow up repeating that cycle. He’s now passing that trauma along to everyone who views it. Being primed and conditioned to watch guys like him only to have them tell us that we are worthless because we’ve got a penis attached to our bodies and we like men. A mere exposure to that messaging by happenstance permeates the psyche. The more it happens the more traumatizing it is.

Yet, gay men and “straight” identifying men have been locked in this endless tête-à-tête of criminalization. So, just like the homophobic jock in high school or the school bully, he’s harming men. He’s broken himself, but that toxicity is getting all into and onto us as well. He thinks he’s reclaiming his power by telling us he feels worthless so the words of the community can’t hurt him. We tell ourselves that his words don’t hurt or trigger us as well. In large part that is untrue.
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100% disagree. How someone self-identifies with their sexual orientation has absolutely nothing to do with anyone else. He could have internalized homophobia. But could also just be G4P. The problem with gay sex work is that people don't realize that it is sex WORK. No one bats an eye when an openly gay porn star is performing in scenes with someone that isn't their real life partner. That they can go to work, get the job done and come home and completely detach themselves from their onscreen persona. But if the gender identities of their costars change then all of a sudden the performer is closeted, or has internalized homophobia, or they're really gay but just don't know it yet. Let people dictate to you what their sexual orientation is and treat them accordingly.

There is way too much projecting, simping and parasocial relationships in general nowadays but I think gay men do this more than others. Your fav OF models are real people that when they log off they may or may not be how they appear online. Now I do think Sean/Nick probably has a lot to work through in therapy. But if he don't want to be the spokesperson for the gays bc he doesn't identify as gay then let him go.
 
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100% disagree. How someone self-identifies with their sexual orientation has absolutely nothing to do with anyone else. He could have internalized homophobia. But could also just be G4P. The problem with gay sex work is that people don't realize that it is sex WORK. No one bats an eye when an openly gay porn star is performing in scenes with someone that isn't their real life partner. That they can go to work, get the job done and come home and completely detach themselves from their onscreen persona. But if the gender identities of their costars change then all of a sudden the performer is closeted, or has internalized homophobia, or they're really gay but just don't know it yet. Let people dictate to you what their sexual orientation is and treat them accordingly.

There is way too much projecting, simping and parasocial relationships in general nowadays but I think gay men do this more than others. Your fav OF models are real people that when they log off they may or may not be how they appear online. Now I do think Sean/Nick probably has a lot to work through in therapy. But if he don't want to be the spokesperson for the gays bc he doesn't identify as gay then let him go.
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Again, it’s not true. If it were true you and countless other men wouldn’t spend your free time on a forums about him. If it were true gay men wouldn’t spend their time living out past rejections and close encounters of the possibility of intimacy. Gay men are conditioned from an early age to be rejected for innate qualities. Then you have those men who take that shame and they bully themselves and other men for displaying homosexual behaviors. Porn geared towards gay and bisexual men has been steeped in a shame that isn’t prevalent in heterosexual porn. There are consequences for sex workers who do heterosexual work but there’s a different energetic consequence for the gay stuff. Everything is gay for pay this, convincing the straight guy to have sex that. This stuff effects us because we are social creatures. The perpetuation of sexism, racism, etc effects us. This whole proliferation of self hatred and renouncing the full spectrum of male sexuality effects us to. It’s an affront to decency, love, and self awareness. Full stop. When people like you get on here and refuse to call a spade a spade and buy into the notions that we are separate and one persons actions can’t influence the sum, it makes it worse!!! What we should begin to focus on is the understanding that we are all interconnected. Individualism, and the focus on the self, is tearing the collective of humanity a part. What he spoke was violence towards himself, and the people that support him. His words are toxic and venomous. He spoke the truth when he said he hates himself and he hates the men that entertain him. Essentially, we are lost and selling away our authenticity for superficial things like money and sex. However, we can agree to disagree. I for one am going to call a thing a thing, in the hopes that it’ll redeem someone open to healing themselves.
 
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Jjiceman said:
100% disagree. How someone self-identifies with their sexual orientation has absolutely nothing to do with anyone else. He could have internalized homophobia. But could also just be G4P. The problem with gay sex work is that people don't realize that it is sex WORK. No one bats an eye when an openly gay porn star is performing in scenes with someone that isn't their real life partner. That they can go to work, get the job done and come home and completely detach themselves from their onscreen persona. But if the gender identities of their costars change then all of a sudden the performer is closeted, or has internalized homophobia, or they're really gay but just don't know it yet. Let people dictate to you what their sexual orientation is and treat them accordingly.

There is way too much projecting, simping and parasocial relationships in general nowadays but I think gay men do this more than others. Your fav OF models are real people that when they log off they may or may not be how they appear online. Now I do think Sean/Nick probably has a lot to work through in therapy. But if he don't want to be the spokesperson for the gays bc he doesn't identify as gay then let him go.
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Put another way, you are free to say what you will. However, the counterpoint has a right to have representation as well. My words were not for you. They were for the person that would recognize their experience in my words and turn inward toward reflection. My goal is to spark awareness in the guy that sees what he said and feels anguish and disappointment and recognizes that it feels familiar.

You’re welcome to continue to perpetuate your narrative, but should I feel loved to do so, I’ll counter it. Not to prove you wrong or change your mind. I’ll be planting a seed for someone else to see this cycle from a new perspective and to know they aren’t weak for feeling offended by what was said. They aren’t alone in the experience of being constantly lied to about their value because they’ve chose truth for themselves.
 
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@tjh1204 Nobody is looking at you, me, OF models or any other stranger on the internet to validate their sexual orientation, self worth, etc. If anything its Lil Nas X, Eliot Page and other queer celebrities who have no problem being prominent queer voices in the culture. There is a saying in the Afam community that all your skin folks are not your kin folks and the same should be adopted for the gays. I don't know how to make that catchy or rhyme but just because someone engages in gay sex acts on camera for money does not make someone gay. Nor does it mean that individual should go mentor the youths, fight homophobia, give motivational speeches or whatever else. Some stuff just isn't that complicated. He's a hot guy who should be taken at face value only. If his rants offend you then unfollow, unsubscribe and move on. He doesn't even stick around instagram long enough to have a lasting impression on anyone about anything. In a couple weeks his screen name will have changed and his posts deleted.
 
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@tjh1204 Nobody is looking at you, me, OF models or any other stranger on the internet to validate their sexual orientation, self worth, etc. If anything its Lil Nas X, Eliot Page and other queer celebrities who have no problem being prominent queer voices in the culture. There is a saying in the Afam community that all your skin folks are not your kin folks and the same should be adopted for the gays. I don't know how to make that catchy or rhyme but just because someone engages in gay sex acts on camera for money does not make someone gay. Nor does it mean that individual should go mentor the youths, fight homophobia, give motivational speeches or whatever else. Some stuff just isn't that complicated. He's a hot guy who should be taken at face value only. If his rants offend you then unfollow, unsubscribe and move on. He doesn't even stick around instagram long enough to have a lasting impression on anyone about anything. In a couple weeks his screen name will have changed and his posts deleted.
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